It is now story time with the Renegade….
Often, I am asked what is the source of my rage…because yeah, it can be rather shocking. Most often, people assume it is either job related, or, like my job, predicated on the fact that I was abused or molested as a child. Truth is, it is neither of those things. There are many reasons I have some rage, and today, I will share one with the class.
In fact, class is a key word there.
Now, the subtitle of this entry could be “So maybe the Patriarchal Society did fuck me, so now I am fucking them back and making them pay me handsomely for it”, but that is really long. So I will stick with this:
“Renegade’s first real entry on class, personal as political”
The first house I remember living in as a child was a four-room ranch style that my parents rented. It was small, with ugly pink and white aluminum awnings over the windows, a tiny back yard that was mostly dirt and weeds, cracked pavement in the front, and ugly chain link fence all around. The linoleum in the kitchen was pale orange, which made no sense to me, because nothing else in the kitchen was orange. Olive green carpet. There was a kitchen, a living room, my parents’ bedroom, and a bedroom me and my brother shared, though he generally preferred to sleep on the couch in the living room. One bathroom. Both my parents are neat freaks, so everything was clean, but we still managed to have bugs. Lots of them. Spiders, ants, silverfish….bugs. It was exactly one block away from the interstate. The lot across from us had a similarly ugly chain link fence, a trailer, a drunk guy who had lots of guns and dogs. Mean, big dogs. One of whom jumped the fence and attacked my brother at one point and he still has the scars on his legs to this day. I recall hitting that dog with a baseball bat until it let go of him. The owner of the dogs (and guns), managed to scare the dog off before it got to me by firing a round into the air. The house next to us had a younger couple living in it, and it seemed they were either madly in love with each other or he was high and beating the shit out of her on a nightly basis. My bedroom window faced their bedroom window, and in the summer (no air conditioning) I recall hearing both. My parents called the cops on him several times, once after she scared the shit out of me and my brother by knocking on our door bleeding and beat to shit screaming “he’s going to kill me” while they (my parents) we not home. She kept taking him back though, and never pressed charges. Both my parents, owners of high school diplomas, worked. My mom has been in the same field (insurance) for as long as I’ve been alive…still is, in fact. My dad has had more jobs (when he had them) than I can count over the years. We ate a lot of pasta, because it was cheap. And creamed tuna fish on toast. And soup. And boxed macaroni and cheese, sometimes with water though, because we had no milk or opted to save it for breakfast. The power got turned off occasionally. The phone rang a lot and we were told not to answer it. At the time, I was not really aware that everyone did not live like this. My relatives that we visited had nicer places, but nothing that overtly screamed “money”…I just figured they were luckier. We had a white station wagon with the brown wood looking paneling on the side, it was named Martha. There were very few other kids in the neighborhood, but enough that we could manage a game of baseball or kickball up the street in an empty lot, which usually had to be cleared of broken booze bottles first. Nothing seemed that strange to me until I started going to school. My parents wanted us to have good educations, so we went to a private school. Which had it’s own version of welfare, as it were. My dad worked there cleaning and doing minor repairs and painting on weekends, and we got lunch vouchers, and hand me down uniforms from other students. School supplies were donated. We rode the bus for free. We were the only ones who did. This was noted by fellow students and the occasional teacher and pointed out. Often. Even though we were in uniforms, I was made well aware of the fact that mine were donated from someone else who could afford their own, and people were quick to point out I was wearing k-mart socks and tennis shoes rather than Nikes. On a daily basis. I had some friends, but after seeing their houses, which seemed massive and stately in my mind, with the power always on and every junk food imaginable in the fridge, I was embarrassed to invite them to mine. One day on the bus ride home, as we got close to our stop, an older boy asked me where we lived. I pointed down the street to our house. He said, “You live by the highway?” I said yes. He laughed and said “only bums live by the highway. That makes you white trash!” It became a chant as my brother and I exited the bus. And stayed one for a good few months. Someone then pointed out that my father was not actually white. The taunt occasionally became more colorful. When my brother pointed out that my family was actually mostly Slavic, “commie” got added to the list (cold war and all). He played it all off with humor, which has always been his way. I started punching people or beating them down with my donated back pack full of donated books and donated school supplies until they stopped. It was worth the detention and trips to the shrink just to have them stop. I remember wanting to sic the neighbors dogs on them, or hit them with bats…because that is what they reminded me of…the neighbors dogs. One night both the cops and the EMTS ended up at our neighbor’s house. They wheeled her out on a stretcher, and it looked like you see on television. Neither of them came back. We lived there until I was nine.
The second house we rented was, in truth, amazing. I felt like I had died and gone to the Promised Land! Big tri-level, painted and nice carpet and cozy kitchen! I had my own room! In a real neighborhood! We had a big back yard with a lawn that backed right up to a park with a playground and a huge open grass area. Vaulted ceilings and a fireplace! No more worrying about slicing yourself open on a broken Thunderbird bottle while playing football! I was no longer afraid to bring friends home! No bugs, no freaky neighbors, no vicious dogs…and no more donated uniforms! How we managed to afford that, I do not know to this day. I suspect my dad hit it big in Vegas and my mom got a promotion or something. It was great and amazing and it managed to last for two whole years….then, we were out.
The third house we rented was big…but…it was old, and a total mess and back in a similar neighborhood to my first one. Ripped up floors, a back yard that looked like the Amazon Jungle, leaky pipes and rotted dry wall and molded carpets. Writing all over the walls…and bugs. But, I had my own room! I still felt like I had died and gone back to hell though. It was like the first house all over again, only bigger, and I was now fully aware that no, no one else I knew lived like this. We worked, all of us, long and hard, on cleaning the place up, fixing it up, tearing all the shit out of the yard, repainting, making it livable. The girls who were once again laughing at my cheap tennis shoes and donated uniforms were having slumber parties and going to the mall while I was learning how to drywall and use a chainsaw. School sucked. The only thing that kept the class-hounds at bay was one, I would still beat them up if they made fun of me, and two…oddly enough, I was a good athlete. I am convinced to this day my athletic skill in everything from red-rover and dodge ball to tennis and running saved me from honestly, really, beating the ever living shit out of one or two of my classmates. They jeered, and they taunted, and they called me white trash and everything else under the sun behind my back, but if they wanted to win in gym class, they needed me…and even the school, where I was making shit grades and living in detention and could not afford the uniform and sign up fees, looked the other way to have me on the team…volleyball, basketball, track, swimming, gymnastics. Yep, I did all that. And though I never would have made the connection then, or used the word, in my head I already knew what was going on. To them, all of them, the school, the kids, whatever…I was a whore. They didn’t like or care about me, I never got invited to parties or sleepovers, but I had a skill they did want, need, and used…my athletic talent. My brother was smart and funny; he played the same sort of role in a different way…good grades, spelling bees, class clown to boot. Me, I had sports. And at that point, it was enough. Fine, I’d be their jock. I’d be their violent-tempered, athletic whore in my cheap tennis shoes and donated school colored sports gear. I’d win. I’d keep winning. When I did, it lessened the teasing…at least to my face. It, at my occasional right hook, made them stay away, shut up, leave me alone, and it was worth it. And sports, winning? Well, that was one thing I did well. Better than them. So at night, after eating pasta or macaroni made with water, sometimes with the power on, sometimes with it off, I’d go to my room, where the marker scrawled on the walls and the water stains when we moved in kept bleeding through whatever paint we’d put over it, I would lay out my donated uniform and set out my cheap tennis shoes for the next day and I would crawl into bed and think about every name, every insult, every attitude thrown at me, my brother, my family, and I would wrap myself up in a nice little ball of anger and hate and resentment and I would think “just wait, you fuckers, just wait. I will show you. I will show all of you.” And I would sleep. Then in whatever gym activity, whatever extra circular sport was slated for the next day, I would unleash that fury. In gym if it was one of those violent games not played anymore, such as dodge ball, I would hurl that fucking ball as hard as I could. I wanted to hurt them like they were hurting me. If it was after school sports I would play as hard as I could, the most points, the fastest time, whatever it took. I didn’t have friends, no one cared I was flunking two classes, no one cared that people still called me whatever mean names they could think of…I won. They respected and liked that. So you see, I’ve been regarded as a low class whore for quite some time…. I stopped seeing the shrink; after all, he wasn’t helping me much. Rage was a good motivator. When people started calling me stupid because of my bad grades, it motivated me there too. I started making A’s in more than Gym and Social Studies. (never did master math, though, it still vexes me). When the taunts started that I would be a white trash junkie dead or in prison by the age of 17…that motivated me too. I stopped starting fights and saved all up all my anger for sports. And it worked, a little. Or so it seemed at the time. Truth was I was a good athlete with zero social skills or social connections or friends who was already suffering from insomnia and stress migraines who hated and distrusted every single member of the human species and showed, pretty much, not an ounce of human emotion to anyone, ever, unless it was something particularly savage in gym class. My mantra became “I’ll show you.”
Then something strange happened. My parents initially said it was because my mom got a new job that she needed to start immediately, I came to know later in life the truth was my father, a compulsive gambler (explained much), had lost pretty much all the money we did (not) have and owed some rather unsympathetic people some pretty serious bank, but we packed up and moved, literally, in the dead of night, to a new state… I was 14.
We lived out of the car (Martha, yep, still with us) for about a week, then rented a tiny, tiny, house which was no worse than any other I had been in. Our parents enrolled us in public school. Both my parents got jobs…my Mom’s actually paid well! A fresh start, as it were, and being in a public school…literally saved my life, I think. Yeah, there were rich kid assholes there, but there were also kids like me…even in my own neighborhood, and I managed to make a friend or two, even though I never trusted them and was always wary…after all, people always if not let you down, stabbed you in the back or used you…and even in this new big pond, I was still pretty good at sports. My brother managed to blend right in as the smart, funny kid. Class was still there, and important, but hey, for the first time in my life I met other kids who knew what it was like to eat mac & cheese with no milk! I ended up with a small circle of friends; Laura, half Irish and half Sicilian who had a rep for actually praying before she would kick the shit out of somebody, Maria from Argentina, whose name and country of origin alliteration we would often make up songs about, Kay, a Chinese American who was an amazing artist and really, really tall, and Vanessa, who was actually a rather rich white gal but very quiet and preferred doing her own thing to trying to fit in. My parents worked hard, as did I with sports and grades, and for the first time ever, while I was still aware and reminded by some folks of my class status, I had, well, actual friends who were in the same boat or did not really seem to care. It was, in a word, relieving.
I was just over the age of 16 when my parents bought their first house ever. It was good sized, and needed a lot of work, but they got a good price on it because, well, the people living there prior? Not only pigs, but a double murder-suicide. Guy shot his wife and sister in law in the hallway before blowing his brains out in what would become my bedroom. Yes, I know that is fucking creepy. Point is, there were three livable rooms in the house when we moved in, the master bedroom, which would be my parents, and one in the basement with its own access through the garage, which my brother got because he was older, with a job, working odd hours, so that left “the murder room”. Having very little money throughout life and actually finally living in a place that is yours makes you infinitely practical. We won’t discuss what ripping the carpet out of there was like. I managed to, even while now being teased for not only being not rich, but a goth skate rat and looking like a skinny guy, managed to get a boyfriend, a fellow track team member. Maria and I had a falling out when she decided to jump ship to be a popular girl, which entailed a whole lotta sex with popular boys…which did not work…and stabbing me in the back, which I had been prepared for and expected all along anyway (humans, can’t trust ‘em) and I met Melissa, a lesbian budding radical feminist. Thus Ren’s into to feminism, which can be read about here. Life, over all, was better…but, for the most part, I still did not like people, and it motivated me…
Right into a partial scholarship ride to college. Which I could not really afford anyway, but dammit, I WAS going. After all the being called stupid and told I would be junkie and dead or in prison, and oh yeah, white trash; there was NO way I wasn’t going. I still had to show them, after all. All of them. Forever and ever, ad infinitum, amen. Loans, jobs, debt? Bring it on.
So off I went, to the most expensive school I got accepted to.
Which of course found me needing a job. I’d worked prior to that…waitress, office assistant, but no way, while chasing that all important degree, I had time for that, no way it would make me the bank I needed, even living in the dorm and eating school food, to live, pay tuition, buy books, survive. So me, being the infinitely practical type, marched my jock body down to ye olde local strip club. And the rest, as they say, is history…
Which is what I got my degree in, one of them anyway. The other, theatre…all that time with power tools spent fixing up houses lent itself well to set construction. Plus, I like theatre. And I could probably, due to those pieces of paper that I had to have, find and get a “respectable job”…I’ve even had a few of those in my day…but, you know?
Sex work pays better. And, strange and seedy as it can be and all, I know where I’ve come from, and I am not, if at all possible, ever going back there again. I’ve lived with no power, out of a car, in houses that were falling apart. I’ve worn donated clothes and been called white trash, and survived on very little food and beaten up attack dogs with a bat. I’ve kicked refuse out of the way so I had a place to play, ripped bloody carpet out of what would be my bedroom, and I have most certainly been a whore, not the kind who fucks, but a kind who used their body for the pleasure, pride, amusement and glory of others for not nearly as much pay…for a very long time. Hell, professional athletes, models and other entertainers are the most highly paid whores in the world. And I know and remember how all of that feels…and it still makes me angry. And I am not, by whatever means, ever going back there. So yeah, I remain motivated. Rage is good motivation.
Friday, May 11, 2007
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"being in a public school…literally saved my life, I think. Yeah, there were rich kid assholes there, but there were also kids like me…even in my own neighborhood, and I managed to make a friend or two, even though I never trusted them and was always wary…after all, people always if not let you down, stabbed you in the back or used you…and even in this new big pond, I was still pretty good at sports. My brother managed to blend right in as the smart, funny kid. Class was still there, and important, but hey, for the first time in my life I met other kids who knew what it was like to eat mac & cheese with no milk"
Ren... the whole post is amazing but thanks so much for this.
I'm a middle-class girl who went to public school and it seems everyone around me nowadays thinks public schools are evil and private ones (or home/unschooling) is the Only Thing that will Save Our Kids.
But really, if I'd gone to a private school, would whitey me have even had the CHANCE to spend her time hanging out with the poor immigrant kids, the other kids with disabilities, the people everyone rejected, the people with life stories it took brains and a heart to understand?
Would I have had any IDEA of the world beyond my nose and the many forms of experience (and injustice) in it? I don't think so.
I don't call my consciousness perfect even today, and I also definitely had my clique of brainy middle-class whitey pals... but I thank my parents profoundly that I had the chance to actually learn and live alongside people who didn't look, talk, think, and live just like me.
I'm not gonna say I knew what all was going on, and I'm not gonna claim I was never part of the problem (I think back to a few essays I wrote about race issues as a young teen and cringe. HARD.)
But at least I had a real chance to get a clue.
I'm glad of it.
Wow, Ren.
Thanks for sharing all that.
I don't know what else to say at the moment.
"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"-whoever...
Thanks for this- I've always wondered what your motivations were.
My response to similar treatment was to become invisible. It still is, to a large degree. I do remember how people would become my friend the day before a test, so I'd let them copy my answers. Of course, I learned to write the answers in pencil, then change them after they'd turned their test in.
I was never poor, but my parents were very eccentric, and that's just as damning in the eyes of many, if you're living in a very small town.
Thanks again. Another piece of the Ren Puzzle clicks into place.
I wanted to hurt them like they were hurting me.
I was also an "outclasst" growing up - not quite as bad off as you financially but I was effectively the poorest-looking one in my class. And as you noted, classism is all based on relative wealth. So, I too was taunted everyday at the bus stop for my highwaters and hand-me downs.
Well, what goes in is what comes out. When innocent kids get treated like shyt for doing nothing wrong - that pain manifests as depression, cynicism, rage, etc. And it could get channeled into rebellion, drugs, sex, fighting, sports...or in some cases - gun barrels pointed at fellow students or iron-fisted dictators like Hitler (who was taunted by rich Jews in his post-WWI youth).
Of course, everybody only reacts to the acting out...and forgets that society created these "monsters" by their uncalled-for mistreatment of them when young and defenseless in the first place. These people didn't reject society - society rejected them first. We are mirrors for the way society treats us. And such childhood pain hits really hard when you are at a vulnerable, naive stage and often imprints you for life. But most people who haven't felt this just aren't able to understand.
In the Vtech shooting, pundits tried to scapegoat videogaming or immigrants...but really the most obvious external culprit here (aside from perhaps some slight autism) was CLASSISM. This was the source of Cho's rage - and for many others in similar shoes.
But what are schools cracking down on now? Classism? No. Asian guys who are quiet or play videogames. In one recent case, a kid got expelled because he had created a VR map of the school for CS and police found a *gasp* RUBBER HAMMER in his room! Not to mention some decorative swords hanging on walls in the house - some of them wooden. The school board then boycotted a meeting to discuss the issue so they couldn't form a quorum.
Bottomline is: Classism and childhood bullying over it are obviously huge issues in our society today - but what is anybody doing about it? We seem to have support groups for every form of bias in the book now, to some degree or other. But there is very little acknowledgement, much less any foundations working to support all these young victims of classism.
I mean, I think a little bullying can be good to toughen kids up, but kids need to be taught to stand up to it or not push some over the edge too far.
thank you so much for writing this.
the rage makes sense and also--so does the physicality and being willing to get down and "dirty," which so many nice little girls who'd never beaten off a dog with a bat, cleaned someone else's blood off the carpet, or been in physical fights and sports, just don't tweak.
they're furious because they were expected to be "nice girls" and realized later than it made them weak and vulnerable. and sex was a weapon that could be used against them.
you're furious because you -weren't- expected to be a "nice girl," the "nice girls" made your life hell, you couldn't -afford- to be weak and vulnerable, and sex, like sports, was a salvation.
and later, when you got to the radical feminists in college, you probably expected them to be more like your first friend, the outcasts, the ones who -finally- got your deal...and instead they turned out to be like the horrible "nice girls" who made your life hell all over again. that's gotta smart.
makes perfect sense really.
and yeah, what trin said wrt public schools and private schools and so on. well, i had a miserable time in public school, altho' i was more of a "nice girl" at least classwise so that that particular tsuris wasn't mine. i was the nerd and the loner and the "antisocial" (in my case they meant, again, "loner," which was equal parts shyness and resentment). I still very very much doubt that most private schools would've been any better though: the "smart" and "gifted" programs that my folks were convinced would finally put me among my peers, really didn't. those were never really my people, either. just especially "nice" kids who did well on tests and jumped through hoops particularly well. it's a lot clearer in retrospect.
well, i did go to one private school one year, a Montessori, i think not one of the better-run ones (it happened to be across the street from our house). not really the same, though, much more of a warehouse for other eclectic misfits, many of whom had rather -un-privileged backgrounds, i think in retrospect (that was where i first heard the term "corn-fed white"); and yeah, that was awful too, just awful in a somewhat different way from the public schools. i was starting on an early teen rebellion by the end of it, sullen, early stabs at looking "sexy," doing poorly with their weird-ass classes, rocknroll for the first time in my life; if i'd stayed i might very well have gone in a somewhat different direction than i ended up going (back to nerdsville, and school, and daydreaming, and crying at night, and not much else). not necessarily a -better- one, mind you. just: different.
anyway. have you ever read an Orwell essay called "Such, Such Were the Joys?" all about his early experiences as the "scholarship" kid in some ghastly pre-war "public" (British for "private") school. you get a real sense of how strongly it shaped his worldview and personality, "core beliefs," if you will. it's in one of his collections of essays, i think. really recommended reading.
actually, Hitler may or may not have been taunted by "rich Jews;" most official sources i've ever read note that his authoritarian father beat the shit out of him and humiliated him, same as any number of other nice German boys of the time, which is why his message responded as much as it did. his "turning point" toward anti-Semitism (already lying about in the culture ready to pick up; you know all about pogroms and such, right Byrd? history student like yourself) came much later, when he saw orthodox Jews on the road: they looked like aliens to him, and it was one of those "click" moments we are all so familiar with: at last! an Answer! it's all Their fault! praise the heavens, -somewhere- to put all that pent-up aggression and rage. somewhere -safe.- somewhere that isn't -too close to home.-
somewhere that's -vulnerable- and will absorb my rage and contempt, the way i was made to when i was a child.
because i certainly can't take it back to the actual source.
especially if it was a parent.
psych 101 there really.
oh yeah, and there's also the whole cultural context of, mass humiliation of the Germans after WWI, the defeat, the harshness of the terms. entitlement plus stinging defeat is a toxic combination, particularly when you heap the Depression on top of it, and an overall quite authoritarian worldview.
that said:
Of course, everybody only reacts to the acting out...and forgets that society created these "monsters" by their uncalled-for mistreatment of them when young and defenseless in the first place.
yes, that's a start.
sorry, Ren, don't mean to derail, back to you...please.
a question, which you don't have to answer: several, actually:
is rage the -only- motivator? does it still work the way it used to?
what -aren't- you feeling, when the rage takes over?
Me, I'm aware from a reasonable amount of personal experience that rage can actually feel quite good. it's energizing and makes me feel alive, and even -vindicated.- -empowering,- if you were.
it can have a nasty hangover, though.
in a way, sparrowbrain over at Sage's was onto something, if no doubt completely unconsciously: rage -is- actually a drug. so are all the human emotions. love, happiness, depression (actually a deficit of drugs in that case, i think)...lust. they're "natural" drugs that don't require shots or glasses or powder, but they are chemical changes for a that and a that. we live for them. there's a -reason- why people do artificial drugs, legal or otherwise: it's totally human. -everyone- wants to feel...well let's call it "good" for the sake of it, although that's not really adequate.
just part of being in a body really.
being in a public school…literally saved my life, I think.
It never stops being interesting to me how everyone's experience is always so different and unique.
My experience was the opposite: if I had stayed in public school, I'm pretty sure I would've committed suicide. Transferring to a private school in 11th grade saved my life.
More comments later... work beckons now. Great post. You inspire me constantly.
Belle: Actually, the "parents" thing is good point. I've been asked why I am not pissed off at my parents, specifically my father, who was, due to the gambling thing, responsible for some of this...and I am always like "What the FUCK? You know how lucky I am to have had BOTH parents in my life, who, despite it all, did what they COULD for me and my brother, and even if they were working (or gambling) all the time I NEVER doubted that they loved us..."
Shit, I never, ever, thought to blame them, they were living in the same conditions we were...
And I know so many folks who really DID have shitty parents...
Meh, all in ones perspective, I suppose.
Belle:
"is rage the -only- motivator?"
Nah, security is another, pride is another, responsibility is another.
"does it still work the way it used to?" Yep.
"what -aren't- you feeling, when the rage takes over?" Wait, what? It goes away? See, I kinda function constantly on levels of rage, from mildly annoyed to grimly humourous and sarcastic, to a medium burn stress to back the fuck up, Pompeii, your shit's gonna BURN. Yes, sometimes it DOES go away, and I just have fun and good times and all, and then, I am actually pretty mellow, serene, and glass is half full. Chipper, even. It's terrifying. I get all content like and dare I say...happy? It feels different from the rage, better is some ways (i'm calmer, less stressed out, sleep better), worse in others ( i get lazy, don't call folk on honest to god wrong bullshit, kinda apathetic). Happy me would make and EXCELLENT beach bum.
And yes on the emotions as drugs theory...could be rage is like caffeine for me at this point...not much of a rush there, because its pretty much always around and in my system...which might explain why I am pondering sky diving....fear is one hell of a rush, and I am TERRIFIED of heights.
mass humiliation of the Germans after WWI, the defeat, the harshness of the terms. entitlement plus stinging defeat is a toxic combination, particularly when you heap the Depression on top of it, and an overall quite authoritarian worldview.
Exactly, but this really divided Germans from the German Jews because wealthy Zionist Jews had secretly enlisted Americans to help the British fight the Germans...in return for an Israeli homeland. This act of treason was known as the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and was revealed at the settlement table at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference.
The pogroms were in Russia, not Germany, btw.
There was nothing really mystical about anti-Semitism here, then. It was a direct result of the Balfour Declaration and Jewish banking at the time. Were there no Balfour Declaration, I don't think there would have been much anti-Semitism. Certainly, they had gotten treated pretty well prior to that.
Just imagine we got into a war with Zimbabwe and lost when Russia suddenly entered and kicked our ass. Then, we found out afterwards that Irish-Americans had enlisted their help in exchange for some islands in the Pacific. Well, you can guarantee there'd be some anti-Irish sentiment then.
Especially as you say - the nation was demoralized and dead broke - while many Jews were insulated from that because they had accumulated more wealth from banking.
I have also specifically read where rich Jewish kids taunted Hitler and pelted him with erasers. I think this was not uncommon then - classism as usual. I mean, it happened with Ren, it happened with me, it happened to Cho. It's not anti-Semitic - it's universal. The rage that Ren feels here is actually the same rage that Hitler and Cho both felt - despite them being all different races and genders and generations.
Shit, I never, ever, thought to blame them, they were living in the same conditions we were...
And I know so many folks who really DID have shitty parents...
Well, What I Learned In Therapy is,
It doesn't have to be rational. In fact, it's better if it isn't. It -isn't.-
Sure, lots of people have it worse. Doesn't negate your feelings. When has that ever? You know?
I mean, i went through some really ugly shit wrt my moms, and think i have (mostly, although there are always more layers) gotten to a point of relative closure and reconciliation. And yea, relative to most people? i've been damn lucky. I know it. And, if i forgot it, and did the adolescent yelling in their face (way past actual adolescence, i might add), why, they're right there to remind me.
they're good people. they're loving people. no, no one does it perfectly.
and i was still furious. and you know what? i had a right to be.
at a certain point it even stops being about "they should have, goddamit," although i think you pretty much have to go through that.
not all traditional talk therapy either, i don't think that might've been enough by itself, although it's certainly helped an awful lot.
but--
at the last workshop i think i mentioned here, the one that combined a kind of spiritual BDSM with this rather intensive "mat trip" sort of therapy this group does--
i was bottoming for another woman, so in theory this particular trip was about her (and it was, also, as it turns out). she wanted to top, to get in touch with her -leader- and harsher side, not just the nurturing, caretaker she was far more familiar with. so i volunteered to be her guinea pig; i thought it'd just be a fun exercise, same as it had been the last time i'd (briefly) worked with her.
she decided she wanted to get me up on the cross. so, okay. floggers. a little ouchy, a little pleasant burn. nice. ho hum. irritating, wraparound. in the background, the leader coaching her on technique. so far, so i've been here before, so fine. it's about her, so, fine.
then--leader told her to pick up the really heavy implement, the one that's like this solid wooden LONG paddle, like a baseball bat, but thicker and flatter. (ass only here, of course, but).
OW. fucking OW.
"there," i heard the leader say in the background.
and i kept going longer than i expected--i went to the altered place, whatever you want to call it in that context, it wasn't pleasant, but i was riding it.
and then came the point where i had to scream the safe word, and by then i was sobbing.
and no, it didn't trigger any particular memories--i was never physically abused or even really spanked (maybe a swat, like -once) as a child, so nothing like that.
but when you go through intense physical shit like that, well, it stirs up shit.
so i sobbed, and my partner/erstwhile top held me in aftercare, and then reverted to her caretaker/counselor role,
and at one point, i said:
"I hate you."
and she said,
"It's okay that you hate me."
and continued to soothe me.
"It's just energy."
"It's not personal," i mumbled, but you know, i didn't have to. -it really was okay.-
That, that was huge.
most of us don't get to do that, you know.
There's a term in psych, it's called "being a container" for other peoples' emotions.
One of a parents' jobs is to act as a container for the child, especially as an infant, it should be understood, is understood in a healthy parenting situation: the infant is completely helpless and vulnerable, and very probably will go through the entire of gamut of emotions toward the caretaker, no matter how well-meaning sie is and what a good job sie does.
and the responsible caretaker understands that -it's not personal,- it's just how things are.
and is -safe,- for the child, because the child is -not capable- of regulating hir emotions yet, or understanding things like the parents' needs or Mom's having a bad day or suchlike, not really. (this is more true the younger the child is, of course).
So but instead what happens a lot of the time is, the parent, never really having had those needs met hirself, dumps those emotions into hir child instead. when it tips over into "abuse" is when the parent actually expects the child to carry -hir- stuff, in an all-too-common backasswards dynamic.
what happens is, as it happened to the parent before hir, the child takes on that responsibility before sie's capable. unconsciously. it's just something that happens.
because, the choices are: either take on that role, and accept that you're "bad" when you--inevitably--fail to be Mom or Dad's caretaker; or accept that -no one is taking care of you, there is no safety at all.-
at least if you're "bad" there's the illusion of control; then there might be something you can do to fix it.
realizing that there was -nothing you could do-
...that's fucking terrifying, and yep, that is true even all the way unto adulthood, for most of us, and plays itself out in a thousand thousand ways we wouldn't recognize as such.
but, it's there.
i really believe this.
and: back to you;
i'll just say this: dude, if it were me? I mean, from my current perspective, of course. I'd be fucking furious. Dad's off gambling when he's supposed to be taking care of us; no one even -told- me what the hell was going on, -I'm- taking all the shit, all the -shame- that goes with the effects of -his behavior,- the handmedowns, the shitty living conditions, the abuse from scoiety...and he's just -letting me- take it for him. while he indulges his habit. the purported adult and breadwinner. so is Mom, for that matter. What the fuck?!
and now, now they finally find out what I do for a living, and yeah they've been relatively accepting, they still love me, I know they do, I'm lucky compared to lots of people...
but, then to tell me "there are some things you just don't sell"?!
EXCUSE ME?? where the hell were you, and where the fuck do you get off -moralizing- about what -I do- to put bread on my table?
...but, that's just me.
Belle: Eh, I just never could bring myself to be mad at my father. His parents? There is a fucking lifetime movie unto itself...disappointed? Sure, anger and hate and all, no.
BD, and 'but, then to tell me "there are some things you just don't sell"?!'
That was my mom...who has maybe missed 7 days of work in the last 40 years.
byrd--gah. you know, i -really- don't want to get into this here, but: most Jews in Europe? were not wealthy. really. you want to talk about mirrors for society? that was them. that was the Gypsies/Roma. that was people who lived in the -original fucking ghettos,- byrd. that was my great-grandma who rode over here when she was ten years old, on the boat, by herself; and the rest of her family stayed behind in some shitty town in Hungary, and what do you know, it turns out the records of any survivors or their descendants vanish around WWII. and the former synagogue in the shitty town is a Hungarian YMCA, and the only real remnant of the former thriving Jewish population is in the cemetery: a field of slanted dark tombstones like old teeth, across the way from the shiny square new ones across the way, the ones with names.
and the pogroms were -everywhere-, by any other name. that's what fucking Kristallnacht was, byrd,a s well as being a prelude. that's partly the legacy of good ol' German Martin Luther. it didn't stop at anyone's (ever-changing) borders. and it started many centuries before the culmination of the Holocaust. it's what people do to the "other," and the Jews--for whatever combination of reasons--got to be the Other for many for a very, very long time.
and the reason we were known for being moneychangers, byrd, was because there were prescriptions on Christians doing it; it was, as so often happens in these situations, the dirty work. it just so happened in this case to be one which allowed for more wealth and material success, in -some- cases, than y'know, i don't know, well, sex work pays too, doesn't it; but in either case the price can be pretty fucking high.
when you do too well. when you overstep your place.
and, i don't know what kind of material you're reading or why i'm even engaging in this, but.
it's really not suave to complain about how -you've- been a scapegoat and not see it for anyone else.
Ahem:
No more Jews In Europe/ WWII please
perhaps, one day, a thread on that. Not today.
-signed-
the surly slavic jew
yep. it's never anyone's -fault.- i know where my mom's rage comes from. her father. and his father before that. i didn't choose to let out my anger at her because she's so much worse than anyone else, or even because i don't recognize that she did the best she could. i did it because -the buck stops here.- i did it because i don't want to carry that legacy on. i did it because -someone had to.-
yeah, i know, sorry Ren. it's hard not to take the bait sometimes...
and all that said, you know, i do think that classic psych can be way too focused on the "nuclear family" to the exclusion of everything else; and i'm just getting to the point where i'm digging up all the shit i went through at school, all the "peer abuse" i went through, and o yeah, good old fashioned internalized homophobia, there's some excavation work to be done there still.
it's a process.
I should add: and also, -because i could afford to- (indulge my anger, that is).
so yeah, absolutely, it's an expression of privilege to be able to vent in therapy. and, i don't feel guilty about it. i think in a weird-ass way it's an expression of my gratitude, and actually doing work that needs to be done, even though i know that -consciously- a lot of people including the parentals don't always see it that way.
and yet...it's paid off. rather handsomely. in unexpected and not entirely obvious ways.
Belle: Well, you know me and shrinks. I had one, or several, for more than a few years. The state-funded kind, who seemed far more interested in diagnosing me as something than, oh, actually speaking to me or letting me speak to them...so I just ceased speaking and refused to go see them.
...so (she said, stroking non-existent beard), "serene" is "terrifying," because it might make you less responsible...which might affect your work ethic...which might mean, "going back?"
hmmmmmm.
(read in affectionate tone, please)
RE: yeah, i don't blame you at all, I'm sure if that'd been my experience with shrinks i wouldn't want to touch one with a ten foot pole.
Belle: Serene, ect...exactly, to a large extent. I abhore laziness for extended periods of time...extended being more than, oh, 48 hours or so. Not just my work ethic either...I don't actually WORK that much, when I am not working...I am cleaning, doing laundry, landscaping, home repair, writing....something. Which is odd, my folks were not at all lazy, but...meh.
yeah. my mom's sort of the same way, although not to that extent. i think it's partly why i've reacted and am...well, i prefer to think of it as -contemplative,- thankyou. but yeah, i do and can work very hard in sporadic bursts, and can get my shit done at a more leisurely pace in a proper structure, but...i like downtime. and people constantly at motion around me tend to jangle my nerves, particularly when they have that "anxiety hum." i feel like i can never let my guard down because as soon as i do i'm gonna be reprimanded for not doing something i should've done ages ago, or didn't do it well enough and need to do it again, or asked to do something i -won't- be able to do well enough, or...
Belle: Heh, Mr. E knows that feeling. Truthfully, often, he just gets the hell outta my way.
...I will say, though, that Ren "beach bum" mode is nice. I try to enter that whilst on vacation and all. Chill time is needed...I do recognize that.
More Ren stories. I like Ren stories.
I love how DIFFERENT everyone is. It's so neat. And jealousy-inducing, but that's my stuff. The neat is more important, anyway.
i feel like i can never let my guard down because as soon as i do i'm gonna be reprimanded for not doing something i should've done ages ago, or didn't do it well enough and need to do it again, or asked to do something i -won't- be able to do well enough, or...
Gods, do I know that one.
Re: extended family dynamics, you've probably run across her, Belle, but Harriet Lerner gets into that with her family dynamics stuff in Dance of Anger and other good books. Sometimes, her clients and she went back several generations to track down the patterns. I tend to view it quasi-Jungian, but then I just LIKE archetypal fields.
I was the nerdy outcase, but I was largely ignored and mocked. I did, and do, have a lot of rage, but I tend to channel it into sarcasm or depression these days. Personally, I prefer the sarcasm. Depression SUCKS.
Thank you so much for this!
yeah, i've read that one, d. i may even have that one. i have something like it, i know.
and yeah, i'm into the quasi-Jungian. full-on Jungian, even, sometimes.
but one doesn't have to take it to mystic places to believe in shit being handed down from generation to generation. they do call it
"baggage" for a reason...
Deoridhe-
Yay to sarcasm- that forked knife edged tongue! The hard part is not using it when it isn't necessary, and remembering that words can hurt as much or more than fists. Or to not use it on your loved ones. But is a fantastic defense mechanism when you're young and weird.
The pogroms were in Russia, not Germany, btw.
They were called that in Russia, you anti-Semitic shite. Ever heard of Kristallnacht?!
per the Jung (and the restless--stop that): like this, Deoridhe?
Nothing has a stronger influence psychologically on their environment and especially on their children than the unlived life of the parent.
Carl Jung
Ren, this is a fascinating and well-told story.
I can identify with much of this, and with some of what Belle and Trin and Rootie have said. I had a lot of trouble blending, for some different and some similar reasons. We were basically middle class, until later when my parents divorced and both had some bad times financially -- but that was after I went to college. Before that, my troubles mainly stemmed from being highly overprotected and different in many ways -- religion, given eccentric clothing and food, not able to go to games or parties, a "brain," etc. At one point, I realized: I'm not just unpopular, I'm close to being an outcast.
And then, when I started modeling in high school, things got a bit better, as they do when a geek gets some kind of outer endorsement. I still didn't fit in, but I wasn't getting beaten up anymore -- so that was nice. I envy your ability to fight back -- I couldn't do that, physically. I channeled the anger into some productive and some unproductive things -- grades, gymnastics, being anorexic.
Well, bottom-line, I find that my coolest friends IRL didn't peak in high school, in terms of happiness and feeling the potential of life, and it looks like some cool people online are in this category as well.
As far as class stuff -- it's amazing that you've achieved what you have, both in terms of academics and sex work.
Thank you for writing, I rarely get to read such reflections, and it's....nice to get affirmation that the anger doesn't disappear in others as well. The thing I hear most is "get over it" and I can get over most of the people, but I can't get over the anger, and it pisses me off that it's expected. I also found therapy didn't do a damn thing, I wish it did.
After reading and digesting the whole thing again, all I have to say is...
Thank you.
And...
You rock.
Rootie: I try to remember sarcasm is a spice: best applied to the taste of the audience. In general, I try to be sarcastic about events rather than people, unless people ARE the event. It saves me no end of trouble. Except when I annoypople in fur/leather stores by inhailing deeply and exclaiming my delight at all the dead animal we can wear.
Apparently some people don't like remembering what they are admiring was alive once. I find it gives the clothing more depth, myself.
Belle: Yeah, just that. Unlived lives of parents are always dangerous. It creates a field of hunger which most try to live out through their children, or which the living out of forms the children into collateral damage.
Michael Conforti does some interesting stuff with Jung's work re: archetypal fields. I tend to approach my religious experiences via that framework, too.
A perfect example of how porn and stripping work is still related to low socioeconomic status without needed a women to be on the streets
I think I've fallen in love with the young Ren. What an amazing, awesome, kick-ass survivor! Your entire family got kicked down over and over and yet you got back up again and again. There aren't that many stories that turn out this way.
Honestly, I don't do rage. At all. It terrifies me. It fascinates me that you found a way to make it work. And it's got me thinking about ways I could grow with rage instead of run from it. I thank you for that.
"Except when I annoypople in fur/leather stores by inhailing deeply and exclaiming my delight at all the dead animal we can wear."
I don't agree that people shouldn't wear either (though I think there are good reasons people choose not to), but I think people not recognizing that they're wearing skin is... odd.
Anonymous;
See, now most folk would pick up on the fact that gee, with two degrees, I do have other options. They might also pick up on the fact that I am a little obsessed with money. They might also pick up on the fact that by nature and due to upbringing and all, I am not really a people person, not really geared to working in an office type environment with lots of other people. And that I am a very physical person and prefer to make my money via physical means. Most people probably picked up on all of that.
But no, from you, a single sentence, like usual, after an entry primarily about class, on the Evols of the Pornstitution....
Well, get this, the Pornstitution...of ALL the choices those fancy peices of paper did open up to me, is by far my prefered choice, for reasons which are countless...from the money to the physical nature of the work. I am happier doing this than I've ever been in an office job...even some of the pretty good ones I've had.
so really, piss off already.
"The thing I hear most is "get over it" and I can get over most of the people, but I can't get over the anger, and it pisses me off that it's expected."
Exactly. It's supposed to be something BAD ABOUT YOU rather than a natural reaction to what happened.
How in the hell do people expect survivors to survive without anger? Or are we just supposed to be emotionless droids who didn't care WHAT happened to us? Gee, thanks universe.
yeah.
for me it's never so much "don't get angry;" anger is a fundamental tool, a part of being human and yep, a source of power and energy.
it's just--for me, at least--a question of balance. it's a particularly high-octane form of power, and can be corrosive, used exclusively and/or too frequently/constantly. there are other sources.
for me it's never "this is bad, get rid of it" so much as "what else -aren't- I tapping into -instead- of this? What else is underneath?"
They were called that in Russia, you anti-Semitic shite. Ever heard of Kristallnacht?!
Uh, yea that was in 1938 you MORON. Wellll after WWI, the 1917 Balfour Declaration and the 1919 Paris Peace Conference.
For krissakes...anybody with an IQ out there?
Sorry for the WWI tangent again here Ren - simply correcting Jack on a historical fallacy he presented.
Again, Jews and WWI are not the point here - but classism and a common rage that manifests in those who get brutalized by it. Whether you are White trash, a poor Jew, an Asian immigrant, etc - the pain is all the same.
Your two degrees and other options have nothing to do with a low socioeconomic upbringing. You may be a higher class now, but your history constructs your world. Low socioeconomic status inherently brings with it many risk factors which filter into and throughout one’s life, impacting on their beliefs, views and personality. This is widely known. Low socioeconomic families generally are less structured, more chaotic, less educated, less socially adhesive etc etc. Anyway, this is not a lecture class. We are all products of our upbringing. You were socially isolated at school and bullied, it makes sense you are an angry antisocial person. If you want to talk about choices in adult life since you have the opportunity and choice, why is it you are still as angry at people and hate them as you did when you were at school? Oh, of course because most humans are ass holes…uhum, right back to being antisocial again huh? Your living a pattern. You tell everyone you have choices. They are your choices because of you history.
Woops, I meant poor German...but hey, poor Jews too. Classism knows no boundaries and can hit anyone.
Uh, yea that was in 1938 you MORON. Wellll after WWI, the 1917 Balfour Declaration and the 1919 Paris Peace Conference.
And you think it's the only example of systematic violence against the Jewish people in Europe? Why don't we pull out the Inquisition? Martin Luther's incitements to violence against the Jews? I could go on, asshole.
Regardless of how you were trying to make a ludicrous point, it's still fucking ludicrous.
Actually anon, Ren's rage stems from BULLYING and TAUNTING, not specifically low SES.
Although, kids of low SES do tend to be easy targets for bullying and taunting, true.
But I don't think a kid with low SES who is not bullied is going to feel rage.
And also, rich kids can get bullied too. So high SES doesn't always shield against this rage, either.
So the real cause for rage here is not low SES, but bullying. People treating you like trash when you've done nothing wrong. Wouldn't that piss you off?
Why don't we pull out the Inquisition? Martin Luther's incitements to violence against the Jews? I could go on, asshole.
The Spanish Catholic or Protestant one? Martin Luther was in the Middle Ages. Thet's about 300+ years before the time we're talking about here. Yes, I'm sure you could go on with your irrelevant rambling, but please stop or start your own thread on your own blog about what you obviously know very little about.
The bottomline here is that sometimes bullies can suffer blowback from the people they picked on. And that is a remote risk you should accept if you are going to bully someone. Help a man when he is down - and he will never thank you enough. Kick a man when he is down - and he will never forgive you.
Some of the most painful things I've seen on TV are childhood victims confronting their bullies in adulthood. Some of them even pretty successful now. I believe Donna D'Errico was even one - but was taunted as "White trash" growing up. They were all in tears while their bullies had little idea of the pain they had inflicted.
Ah, yes...there goes Anon playing the "only bad upbringing and low-class people become angry sluts" card.
Gee...kinda like the "only people who are raped and sexually abused end up becoming hateful sluts and getting into sex work, because us refined and high-class moral people are waaaaaaay too normal to ever degrade ourselves that way" card, ehhh??
Having another projection moment, aren't we, Anon??
Small wonder she won't use a real name....
Anthony
The point is, sweety pie, that there's a long history of oppression you dismiss with your inanities. The Inquisition originally targeted Jews and Muslims. There are numerous blood libels and injustices carried out on Jews in Europe all throughout the rise and spread of Christianity, even through the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries.
You should follow your own advice and go tweak on your own blog, because if you think that the Jewish people were the bullies here, you're sadly mistaken.
For all we know, Nony's a he. not that it would make him any more or less of an asshole here. just notin'.
if you think that the Jewish people were the bullies here, you're sadly mistaken.
Actually, they were in this case. Sorry, but rich Jews can be bullies too. Get over it and quit making everything here about Jews.
It's like you have no problem believing anyone else can be bullies...but Jews? NO WAY!
Gee, ignorant much?
And I'm pretty sure Anonymous is a rad fem. Why? Due to her anti-porn stance and hiding her ID. Whereas most men don't have huge beefs with porn and don't feel the need to hide behind anonymous IDs to rant on a woman.
jesus fuck. of course Jews -can- be bullies. what does that have to do with revisionist history? which subject, btw, you introduced.
sorry, Ren.
B: German Jews were treated well until their Balfour Declaration of 1917 was unveiled at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference
PG: Have you not heard of the pogroms, idiot?!
B: Pogroms were in Russia.
PG: Well have you ever heard of Kristallnacht, you anti-Semite???!!
B: Yes, but Kristallnacht was in 1938.
PG: Well, have you ever heard of the Protestant Inquisition then?!!
B: Yes, but that was ~350 years prior.
PG: Stop revising history!!!!!!!
B: Huh?
It's funny how viciously I get attacked simply for stating the facts. It's like a certain word is a G-spot-like trigger button in people that make them go into a lunatic frenzy.
Hitler got bullied by Jews and took revenge. This is no different than Columbine or Cho Seung-Hui. Same old, same old. Get over it already.
Ahhh.."Hitler got bullied by Jews and got his revenge."
Oh, yeah...some revenge he got.
So, ByrdBrain...what did the homosexuals, the Roma, and the socialists do to warrant his "revenge" on them, ehhh???
And what would you say about his opinions on people of color??
Your ignorance and bigotry is showing again.
Anthony
It's funny how viciously I get attacked simply for stating the facts.
What the fuck? You're complaining about me and some of my friends beating you up when we run into you in the street just because of your ethnic background? You're objecting to people smashing the windows of your places of worship in and scrawling "death to the idiots" (or whatever your religion is if you're not a practicing Idiot) on its walls? You don't like getting death threats and dog shit shoved through your letter box by drunken gangs of ultra orthodox hassidic jews?
OMG, your complaining, or even a declaring that such things exist in this day and age, is the worst oppression - of ME! - Evr!
I thought you banned this funfar already ren, why oh why oh why....
So, ByrdBrain...what did the homosexuals, the Roma, and the socialists do to warrant his "revenge" on them, ehhh???
And what would you say about his opinions on people of color??
Socialists? You do realize that the NAZIS = National Socialist German Workers' Party?
As far as homos & Romas - you'll have to research those specifically. I am not an expert on Hitler - and only pointed out the Jew connection.
As far as his opinions of various peoples - I know he had various opinions - that most of the world of his time had as well and he was no different. Not to mention most people today still have too - if they simply aren't as vocal about it.
And in fact, you might have some of these same opinions yourself too - if you are really honest with yourself. If so, please spare me the "I'm not racist" BS - because I think I have yet to meet an American who doesn't racially stereotype. And that includes Americans of all races, not just White.
rmil - incoherent rant much?
Oh byrd. You were almost starting to sound like a human being for a little while there.
Wrong again, ByrdBrain.
Hitler naming his party the National socialist Party was NOT an endorsement of socialism but a mocking rejection thereof. Hitler actually despised socialism (in both the social democratic and the Marxist-Leninist variants as a project, and his Nazi followers openly repressed and even physically assaulted socialists. And how do you explain his decision to invade the Soviet Union in 1941, if he was such a fan of socialism???
For your information, BB, "Roma" is the more official name for the people who were better known as "Gypsys"; they were mostly dark-skinned migrants who mostly were discriminated against in the same way that American Blacks were during the pre-Civil Rights movement era.
And as for the "homos" (your phrase, BB, not mine), ever heard of the "Pink Triangle"???
The only opinions that I have that are of worth to you, ByrdBrain, is that you are a bigoted, shameless, misogynic, fascist asshat....and I could care less what race you are.
I'm with R. Mildred, Ren....his fifteen minutes expired almost an hour ago. Time to break out the buzzer.
Anthony
in both the social democratic and the Marxist-Leninist variants as a project, and his Nazi followers openly repressed and even physically assaulted socialists. And how do you explain his decision to invade the Soviet Union in 1941, if he was such a fan of socialism???
Hitler was a staunch anti-Communist.
You do realize there is a difference between Socialism and Communism, right?
*chuckles*
Not that they are entirely different, but they were different enough to be both competing against each other for power in Germany (and the world) at the time.
Ever heard of the Bolsheviks and Stalin? These Commies were already in power early in the 20th century. A lot of WWII was a fight against Communism - and Hitler was fighting against it too.
Hitler didn't grow up in a vacuum. A lot of various ideological and psychological memes were floating around at the time from Marx, Freud, etc through everyone in that era. There was a lot of thought about race, government, etc. So, lots of similar yet competing ideologies evolved.
As far as homos & Romas, that's another topic that out of my scope here. Actually, even this stuff is not really in my scope, but it's not too hard to figure out either.
Okay, I asked nicely, It did not work...
no more comments about jews, nazis, WWI, WWII, socialism, communism, what the fuck ever, will be published on this post. Saavy?
Thank you for this post Ren.
...And you call yourself "tough?" You're a huge fucking pussy.
"Wah, they called me poor! I am sooooo damaged now!"
Let me explain something to you. KIDS GET TEASED IN SCHOOL. I've seen people subjected to a A LOT worse than that, and you have the audacity to act like they nailed you to a cross. Wimp. There have been kids that have killed themselves because they couldn't bear to face the taunting. (Something you should've considered, now that you're a professional leech.)
"REN PUNCH IN FACE, SHE SHOW SHE TOUGH GIRL!" Through your methods of retaliation, you show exactly how "tough" you are not. You let them get to you, and it's painfully obvious that you still carry scars over these experiences. The truly strong rise above their demons, whereas you buy into them and let them dominate your life.
If they called you trash and you didn't like that, why are you still trash now?
I don't think you realize that you can accumulate billions of dollars of material wealth and still be white trash. Look at all the "gangsta' rapppers." They have more money than they know what to do with, and they still ride around in their Escalades shooting eachother, they haven't grown out of their "ghetto" mentality, just like you haven't risen above white trash.
You said: "I still had to show them, after all. All of them."
If you went to a highschool reunion and shared what your "profession" is with all of these people, there is no doubt that their sentiments would be: "That makes sense. She always was a trashy whore." So, they were correct in their taunts, weren't they?
You've proved nothing to anybody, except maybe to yourself in your sociopathological, dysfunctional, misguided mind.
Vrai:
Actually, I never got called a whore in school, because everyone knew I wasn't fucking anybody in those days...hell, I did go to my 10 year highschool reunion, and most folk were actually pretty shocked by what I do for living because they figured I'd end up being a coach or an artist. Funny that.
Now, frankly, yeah, I was hurt and scarred by my childhood. So what? And I am hardly a profession leech, chief. And I would not be talking about anyones sociopathic tendancies when you're the one suggesting people should have committed suicide. Yeah, all kids face bullies and teasing when they are kids...I'd say you're one of those adults who stayed a bully. Does it make you feel good, chief? Big and strong?
Well, then have at it, asshole.
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