Tuesday, February 05, 2008

Ahem...

Flewellyn:

I know you read here. Said so yourself.

To the best of my recollection or knowledge, I've had no real dealings-conversations- with you, at least not under that name. I can read though and all, and apparently, yeah...whatever.

My snark about Stalking? Humm...what's a gal to think when, oh, once every couple of weeks or so, no matter the topic (such as, oh, opression Olympics), whether or not I am participating in the conversation or not, you and your gal pal Gin feel the need to somehow mention and or trash me and, oh, my pals, whether or not we are participating or not. I'd call that obsessive. And it's not whining, chief, it's mocking, because it's too fuckin' amusing to see how certain folk go off like someone set them on fire merely by existing and disagreeing. I mean, both your assertions that I need a new hobbey? Please. Do a compare and contrast, collect some statistical data...you will find that your girl there, well she has pretty much twice the type working me over than I have for her. And imagine this? I think she's the whiny pathetic asshole that needs a new hobbey too! I mean really, this last batch at her place now? Not a part of the Pandagon Thread. Not Participating. Jack, who was agreeing with her, dared to have me on his blog roll. Gin posts, and wow, look at that, both in the Pandagon Thread and in her journal...mention of me. Out of nowhere. Humm...who carries the grudges and needs a new hobbey here? Hey, I was posting my usual job/sexworkers rights/link round ups/sexworker news/music/normal people and interacting with them kinda thing, minding my own business, when...what? Amanda makes a post, Gin goes ballistic, Jack backs her up, but I'm on his blog roll, and she has to derail that thread with Evil Old Me and the two of you have to have a meeting of the minds (yet again) on what an asshole I am (complete with the usual bullshit, assumptions, and lack of proof)...because...what? It's been a whole month or so since you've had one? And I'm the pathetic whiner who needs a hobbey? Fuck you amuse the shit out of me. I mean, your gal isn't a legend of epic status in wank communities for nothing you know...

But, frankly, I'm fucking sick of the lies, the assumptions, the flat out distortion of truth and other assorted bullshit.

Such as, oh, we were somehow "in on" the attacks on Heart and BB? Not true. In fact, several of us posted, more than once, about how shitty and low it was, and, in fact, several of us got traffic and unkind comments from these people, in fact, a certain "ally" of mine who once raised money for BB was attacked herself...and gee, all that is forgotten, and gee, when we ourselves get attacked...Crickets... Oh, and unless you can prove otherwise, those are some pretty serious fucking accusations to make.

Hell, how about this whole fucking pile of bullshit right here? Hell, not like any of us can defend ourselves on Gin's place, right, I mean, what, with all the banning and her wishing she could do more than that and she'd kick so and so's ass and she wishes she could hit/kick/slap/ ect the sex pos? So sure, we bring it elsewhere, but hey, when you're getting called every name in the book, can't defend yourself, see your friends and their future children being likened to Norman and Mother Bates, and a shit ton of other assorted b.s...well, what does one expect really? A smile and a thank you?

And your personal assumptions about my privilege, and all those about my history as a spoiled rich entitled white college girl? Fuck off, you don't know shit.

Now, contrary to popular belief, I can be civil. You have something to say to me, say it. I won't ban you. But I wouldn't start talking about pathetic and "charming" and abusive and any and all of that other shit until you look at the woman you are defending so vigorously. Yeah, some out of line shit has been said to her, but she has sure as hell said some out of line shit to and about other people...so yeah, if she's going to dish it, she better be fucking ready to take it.

Oh, I've never needed a sockpuppet. And gee, for someone so useless, I find it fucking funny as hell that y'all drag my name into whatever kind of conversations/threads/ so on, where I'm not, and have not said/done jack to anyone...what? Because I'm so useless? Pathetic? No one listens to me? What?

Yeah...that's it, I'm sure.

Smirk.

oh, and edit: Simple rule of shit? Don't start none, there won't be none, but if you start it, expect it in return.

19 comments:

Vanessa said...

Thank you Ren. I appreciate it.

belledame222 said...

oh jeeeeezus. -that- guy.

yeah, at this point i actually am more bewildered by Gr's enablers than i am her, herself.

um, isn't one of her usual (12,000 or so) rants about men who attack women and/or act as Chivalrous Charlies in the name of feminism? or am i thinking of some other tedious gasbag?

UneFemmePlusCourageuse said...

I read maybe the first five comments on that thread, and damn...usually Ginmar acts slightly more rational on Pandagon threads than she does on, say, her own blog in relation to you. But on this thread...

The first time she mentioned that Amanda was 'privileged,' I stopped reading.

belledame222 said...

link to the Pandagon thread, or is it -too- painful?

Renegade Evolution said...

BD:

Pandagon thread..
http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/04/6681/

Sassywho said...

i have yet to see a thread that GM doesn't turn into a trainwreck.

belledame222 said...

Amanda is "privileged"--oh, oh, oh. tell me this isn't part of Gr's "college girl" rantage? oh, this ought to be GOOD. -grabs popcorn-

coz she's a college girl, Amanda, but -not- a Multi-Degreed Asswipe. which ought to count for -something-...

belledame222 said...

SW: it's a gift, isn't it? i don't understand why she hasn't just been banned from...well, a number of places really.

Plain(s)feminist said...

So, having read the thread...which part of her approach is feminist? Is it the manipulation or the outright attacks? Or - I know! It's the woman-hating, right?

Renegade Evolution said...

PF: How about the obsession with my tits? Is that feminist??? Or maybe the rampant speculation? Or saying I HATE feminism and feminists? (hey, wait, what are YOU doing here, plain(s)FEMINIST??? I hate you!)

pfft.

belledame222 said...

i think the part where she and her cronies were ranting about how you probably expected people to put money in your g-string like you were at your job, DB's red lips and pert tits and deceptively nice words were only a cover for her true viperish nature, etc. etc. etc.

belledame222 said...

oh, oh, and making fun of a pregnant woman who the worst thing she's ever said about Gr is one hurt "fuck you" as part of a collective kissoff (and then apologized for it, not that such things mean anything in the world of Gr), suggesting that her son will be the next Norman Bates; what's more feminist than that??

or, all together now, because, yes! it NEVER gets old! not this, o no!

"YOU'RE THAT PROFESSIONAL VIRGIN WHO GOT HER HYMEN EMBALMED."

-genius-. it's like Simone de Beauvoir and Rosa Luxemberg -and- Audre Lorde all put together!

Laura said...

FFS. Again. Christ, the place I discovered your blog, Ren, was when you were defending BB over sth (can't remember what now) and, surprise surprise, getting accused of having an agenda about it.

Ginmar and her cowardly cronies (all minus one, I should point out, who actually had the decency to email me) triggered my self harming with their lies and cowardly attacks and bullshit about this time last year (then had the fucking nerve to tell me I was being passive aggressive by posting about my feelings on my own blog) so yes, a great big fuck you to them.

Kim said...

I second Laura (and offer her a big MISS YOU hug!)

UneFemmePlusCourageuse said...

I've decided to read the whole thread and am now cracking up at her getting pissy at Mnemosyne for using the word 'um.' How scandalous!

belledame222 said...

That's not even original, the "um" thing, Twisty used to use that as a jumping off point for snarkage.

admittedly she never did go quite as spectacularly shit-splatter as dear Gr over it...or, anything else. but then, Gr is SPECIAL. as we know.

DJ Carson D said...

Can we all just agree that Ginmar is bloody fucking nuts, pat her on the head and tell her "Nice dog" until she relizes she needs professional help?

belledame222 said...

DJ: as per the second part of your question, I take it she's tried to get help, and it has not been effective or sufficient. She's gone through a lot, and she's genuinely in a lot of pain. For this, I sympathize. Or would do, if I weren't quite so much of a heartless bastard.

What I don't have anymore is any sort of empathy for her, because she has none herself; much less patience for her tantrums and the people who enable them.

Which leads back to the first part of the question: ideally, people would BAN her ass from civilized places, but unless or until that happens, either we steer clear of Big Mainstream Feminist Blogs (well, I was off Pandagon for a number of reasons anyway) or just accept that yep, she's gonna be in there sucking away, adding to the general level of wank by exponential factors.

there is no particular reason to read her lj, no. not that I blame people for looking when they are informed that she has been screeching and ranting about them by name, once again.

belledame222 said...

anyway, the real problem with that Pandagon thread wasn't even her herself so much as the people who came in and basically gave her Bizarro World some validity by backing her up or walking on eggshells around her.