(Damn you Charlie Daniels Band!) Hell, I even had to drive through Georgia to get there…
So anyway, yep, last week I was down in FL with Mr.E, visiting my family. We do this twice or so a year, go on down there, do tourist things, hang out, and stay at my folks place. We’ve been doing so for awhile now. Mr.E loves my parents, the feeling is mutual. And generally it is a grand old time.
However, to say that interaction for extended periods of time with my parents has not been awkward since they learned what I do for a living would be a lie. The standard policy since they learned has been simple: we don’t mention or talk about it. Which is, generally, fine by me. Easier for everyone all around. But it does make things interesting and often a little stressful. And often, it’s little things that make it difficult.
For instance, everyone else- my parents, my brother, Mr.E, can sit around and talk about their jobs: what they’ve been working on, bosses, co-workers, office politics and policy, bad days, funny things that happened at work- all that work stuff. And I sort of sit there, occasionally offering an opinion on what they say, smiling and nodding when appropriate, frowning and shaking my head when appropriate, but not actually participating in the conversation, and not at all invited to participate in the conversation. It is as if I have no job. There is no discussing my co-workers recent marriage, or what I’ve been doing lately, or any other such thing. It is not mentioned. I can't (or don't) talk about a scene I did which I'm really pleased with, or some funny dudes I danced for, or what is going on with the whole sex worker outreach thing...they don't want to know, and I don't think they even want to pretend to.
Or say, my cell phone rings and it is work related. Doesn’t matter what I’m doing- chillin’ outside in the sun socializing with the family, or if we’re in the middle of a card game or something…I get up and leave the location we’re in completely to take the call. No one else does this when work calls, but I do. It’s not been a formal declaration that I will do this- it’s just expected. So it’s what I do.
If I happen to be actually doing work in FL, it is not mentioned either. I have once, and only once, combined a business trip to the sunshine state with a pleasure trip, and on that occasion, I did not mention to them that we we’re arriving two days prior to when we told them we would be there for work reasons. When I go there for work, I don’t even mention I’m in town, as it were. I slip into the state, do my thing, then leave without so much as a call.
They also know things such as I am going to Atlanta in April, then Chicago and possibly Boston later in the summer, but they don’t know why, and really don’t want to hear about it. They know I blog, but don’t read, or know where, or know what I blog about. They don't get it, and don't seem to want to make the effort.
This is all standard and typical, however, this go around, things were even more awkward and interesting…
As a general rule, my parents and I looove to talk politics, media, current events, and all that stuff. They are big on shows such as “Meet The Press” and all those other political talk shows that are on in the morning hours of the weekend. It can be fun, because Mom is a Republican, Dad is an Independent, and then there is Libertarian me- I mean I know my Mom is voting for McCain, and why, and Dad is leaning towards Obama, and why, so on, so forth. We talked about all the presidential hopefuls; we talked about gas prices and economic issues. We talked about the Iraq war. We talked about GWB. We did all that stuff, and you know, it was cool to do so. It was intellectually stimulating and interesting. But yes, anyway, we’re sitting there watching one of those political talk shows, and imagine this- Spitzer was the subject.
And it was truly interesting there for a few moments, because it was if they had either forgotten I was in the room or they had put so far out of their minds that I happen to be a sex worker that they felt no need to censor themselves whatsoever. My mother is empathizing with Mrs. Spitzer- and says she would be more likely to forgive a man for having an affair with a woman he actually cared about than forgive him for paying money to have sex with a hooker. My dad also is feeling for Mrs. Spitzer- yet says he thinks the emotional intimacy of an actual affair would be more hurtful than a “just sex” thing. She looks at me, expecting me to feel the same way she does, but I surprise her by agreeing with my father. (Hell, Mr.E and I are emotionally monogamous- I don’t care who he sleeps with, an actual emotional affair would be a whole different story). We all agree this has got to suck for Spitzer’s kids. They comment how rough it must be for his family, their business being dragged through the media like this. At which point, perhaps even forgetting our “we don’t discuss your life” policy myself, I say:
“What about Kirsten?”
In unison: “Who?”
Grrr. “The escort? The woman he was paying? You know, who the media has outed and had a field day with?”
Insert long moment of grave silence here…as if, suddenly, they happen to remember what I do for a living! Looks of mild panic and disdain follow. “Well yes,” my mother finally manages, “it’s a shame she’s had to go through this too.”
Awkward silence. I excuse myself and go outside for a smoke. I’m chillin’ out there, feeling rather pissy and annoyed, for about fifteen minutes before my dad comes out to also have a smoke and he asks if I’m okay, to which I nod. My mom joins us a few minutes later, and asks the same question, and gets the same response. She then manages “You’re not doing anything illegal, are you?” She gets a glare. A few more minutes of hugely awkward silence. Then the inevitable:
“We just don’t get it, you’re so smart.”
Now, a couple of choice and really honestly hurtful responses to that flew through my head at light speed but I responded with “And doing my job is not making me any dumber.”
No comeback for that one out of either of them. They know that I do what I do by choice. They know how I feel on making all forms of sex work legal. They know that in every way except for my job I am pretty much average citizen Americanus. They also know I am pissed. I manage “For all of my life you two have praised the fact that I was a little out there, did my own thing, was creative and not always so conventional or normal. You took a lot of pride in that when it suited you- how independent I was, how I didn’t do what everyone else was doing-it was great for you so long as I wasn’t doing something you opposed, but now when it doesn’t suit you or is something you don’t approve of, you wish I would just be like everyone else. It doesn’t work that way.”
My mom gets that beset upon mom look. “It just seems like such a waste, you don’t have to do this.”
Wooo, rage factor. Several more scathing and brutal responses run through my head. I settle for “Do you even care that I like my job?”
“I don’t understand that either.”
“Well, you don’t have to.” Frustration level has reached critical. So I say, “Can we just go back to pretending that I don’t have a job other than being a housewife or whatever?”
I take the lack of a response as a yes, go inside, and retreat to the basement to play guitar hero. The subject is not mentioned again. Fine by me. In fact, if the subject is never mentioned again, I’ll be thrilled.
It didn’t help either that on the drive home Mr.E mentioned, in passing, me going back to school because while he thinks my ass is great, I’m so smart and my mind is a better asset. That comment earned a glare that would have melted ice caps instantly I’m pretty sure. And I know he didn’t mean it the way I took it, he was talking future like, for when I left the business and all, it was just the wrong time to make the statement.
I really am sick of all this shit. Sick of people and their judgments and the thought that since whomever sees sex as an intimate act that should only be done in some way or with some people or whatever it must be a universal thing or that sex workers cannot be intelligent…I mean, its bad enough that I get to take that crap from the masses, but when it’s family, it’s even worse. I get to a point where I feel like at some point I’m going to snap and end up bashing someone’s head against a wall while screaming, “Just…shut…up and leave me the fuck alone!” Over and over again. (Oops, there’s the violent fantasy for the day). I mean I don’t actually expect my parents to love or accept or approve of what I do for a living. The chances of that are less than slim to none, but Christ! I mean, I make concessions with regards to behavior around them: I don’t swear (which is fuckin’ hard, y’all), I don’t wear anything deemed “slutty” (no thong straps showin’, ect), Mr.E and I are on our best behavior-sex wise- when in their home. I don’t take cheap shots at their politics or religious beliefs or inability to program their own DVR. I don’t ever mention any “wrongs” done unto me by them, or blame them for anything. But the guilt shit over my job that they give, or the comments on my “wasted intellect” and all get real damn old and tedious. It would be nice if they actually think I’m an intelligent adult capable of making my own decisions and living my own life as I choose to do, they would fucking act like it for a change.
So yeah, that was Florida. There were theme parks and beaches too.

36 comments:
Who wouldn’t be disappointed? You bring children into the world hoping they grow up to be amazing adults with full and rich lives with families, people other children will look up to. Your parents undoubtedly had other hopes for you, writer or artist perhaps? Historian? Teacher? I’m sure they expected you’d actually do something with that college education.
Instead you strip and make porno. Your career is probably the last thing they ever pictured or wanted for you. Most people wouldn’t want their children to grow up to be whores. It’s a dangerous, short-lived job that the majority of society disdains. You can choose to do it, but don’t expect other people to accept or like it.
You see yourself as an adult woman of agency doing what you want and being successful. They probably think of “their little girl” getting naked for and having sex with multiple men, digitally captured for eternity. They probably cringe at the thought of their daughter being a piece of meat for anyone who wants a taste and can afford the fee.
It’s a rough, soulless job, Ren. People want better than that for their children. They don’t want them to be nameless objects men jack off to mindlessly before going to bed or paw all over at a bachelor party or toss some money at in order get them to perform sexual acts.
It’s not just another job. It’s not part of a normal life. It’s not what people picture their children doing. It probably kills them that you do, especially when you could do so much more.
Oh damn.
Well, you are not alone.
And the good news is, you know what makes you happy. You're tough, and capable, and that's all that should matter.
You know, I just read this book "World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War" - it's splendid (if a little bit skewed in its representations of non-allies and "bad" allies to the U.S... Cuba being the sole exception).
One of the characters really reminded me of you. She's this army chick whose plain crashes over a zombie-infested Louisiana swamp, and makes it out alive, despite her banged-up ankle. The entire thing is WAY inspirational.
I have to say, if the zombies ever do invade - I know of one person I'd dearly love to have on my team.
You.
:-)
Oh, and anonymous coward? Go fuck yourself. Preferably with a chainsaw.
oh, drop dead, anon.
It sounds suspiciously similar to a lot of "well, have you tried -not- being gay?" head-desk-ers with one's loving but clueless family.
Sad thing is, Anony there is stating fact. Nothing s/he said is untrue. That's the way MOST people feel.
gah.
anony - is that you, Mr. E?
Yea, speak your truth, brother!
Ren, speaking for myself and the friends i've turned on to your blog (innuendo intended), we love you, we love what you do, and we support you. keep on blogging, keep on fighting, and keep on doing what you enjoy. I just wish i was brave enough to live up to my ideals like you do.
(queer, working class, feminist, pro-porn dude/academic, for what its worth. my queer (including feminist academics!) friends love your blog)
Gaaa.
That sucks, Ren.
After reading this, I thought for a moment about I'd feel if in 10 to 15 or so years, my Pea decides to chose a career in sex work.
What would get me most would be the danger factor. As far as the "moral" factor, there would be a part of me that would have trouble accepting, perhaps, that her little, chubby, wriggly baby body that I used to take such good care of was now all grown up and -- well, doing sexy stuff. The "sexy stuff" wouldn't bother me in and of itself so much - I just couldn't bear the thought of her being hurt, ridiculed, or called a "whore/slut" by someone like say, Anon up there -- someone one who meant it in a ugly, demeaning way.
But like Anon said, that's prob some of what your parents are feeling.
'Course, they might not like it if you were a RABID BEAR TRAPPER or GREAT WHITE SHARK HUNTER either. But, granted, there wouldn't be a stigma around these other dangerous jobs.
Sigh.
I feel for ya.
In general, tho - and this sure isn't a new idea -- I think the human race would be a ton better off if we weren't so damn hung up about nekkid sexxxy stuff.
first - your parents have a basement? in florida? with video games?? totally rad.
second - this really sucks but i'd give it time. it's obvious that your parents love you very much and only want the best of you (their version of best, mind you). i think they'll come around and though you may never be able to be explicit (some folks just don't like to talk about sex, period) hopefully in the near future you'll be able to drop by for a visit while down on business, for example.
bumfucker-
No, it's not. If I truly had a problem with what she does for a living, I wouldn't have married her. Simple really, isn't it?
Now really, take your pathetic MRA self and go to the gym or something.
hey anonymous, a lot of people's parents get anger when they come out. frankly, 'choosing to do it but not expecting anyone to accept it' is the kind of bullshit that keeps so many people in the closet.
ah, hear hear, Mr E. there are many man out here who aren't disturbed by their parters sleeping with other people - the number of open relationships you tend to see around these days is amazing. plus, you know, some people find it a turn on!
I think there's another principle at work here, in addition to the sex-work-stigma. I've noticed that there's not a whole lot of room societally for someone to do a job that makes them happy, unless it also happens to have advancement opportunities or some sort of special status. I'm seeing it right now with my partner: she left grad school because she wasn't happy and, consequently, wasn't doing well, and is now in a much better state of mind, much healthier due to the severe drop in stress, and may want to stay where she's at long-term.
Meanwhile, my folks keep asking me, "Well, when's she planning on going back? It seems like such a waste." After some mental headdesking, I tell them I don't know.
Maybe this is off-topic (if so, forgive me), but it seems like if you're intelligent, you're also expected to have an "intelligent job" with no accounting for what you're interested in, your skills, or what place you want your work to play in your life. The sex-work-stigma just adds even more social opprobrium to the equation.
Reread my comment: just wanted to clarify by "In general, tho - and this sure isn't a new idea -- I think the human race would be a ton better off if we weren't so damn hung up about nekkid sexxxy stuff" I meant the way we humans dearly seem to need to create all these issues where there just doesn't need to be any.
Freaking out about nudity as one minor example.
Sheesh.
Many humans like to fuck.
End of story.
Can we move on?
>It would be nice if they actually think I’m an intelligent adult capable of making my own decisions
Well, they ARE parents. I have 20+ years on you and still have a mother who is trying to fix me - and we have a good relationship too.
:-P
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That said, you are not without reasonably genial responses:
1) Might as well bite the bullet and talk about work, especially the business end. At least it will be good for human interest stories.
2) You have an education and considerable intelligence. It's your right to use it as you see fit. There are plenty enough people in other trades and professions that just use their brain and education for enjoyment too. You do write fiction, for example. It is the rare person who makes a living off that, but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing.
3) You also have the right to respect for your activism and your not inconsiderable service to your kindred professionals.
4) Spitzer, et all are great lead-ins for noting how fucked up social values are. I mean if a man from Mars came to this planet and noticed that just about every other desire is met through commerce, he'd be bewildered by the whole panoply of contentious and unnecessary angst and acrimony. The truth is that your head is screwed on a lot straighter than tha of most of society.
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Side note: Personally, I am very very glad you are part of this world and wish it have millions more just like you.
Ren, I'm sad to hear that your family gives you such a hard time (and that anonymous trolls give you an even worse time as soon as you start to talk about it). It certainly makes my little bouts of family not-getting-it/alienation pale in comparison. Like when I was finally able to quit my paying job to devote myself to being an activist and family members kept asking me how "retirement" was going. And, when some older family members were still alive, they seemed to assume that I was somehow "really" deep-down still a christian.
But your situation sounds especially painful, since, like you described, your family doesn't want you to talk about lots of important parts of your life that they do feel entitled to talk about in their lives.
And,....that's one reason why the sex worker's rights movement is so important. So that all sex workers can be respected by their clients, society, and their families. (Which is also a huge similarity to the LGBT movement!)
ack, apologies for all the typos. serves me right for reading blogs when i should be asleep!
actually Ren, i wanted to pick up something you mentioned earlier about being emotionally monogamous but not sexually monogamous. This is something that i've done in nearly all my relationships, i'd love to hear about how you two negotiate that process (if you want to talk about it, i know it's a very personal questions!)
Renegade,
Your parents sound pretty fabulous. They welcome you into their home, are articulate, and have taken baby steps toward understanding you, stating, "I don't understand that."
25 years ago, I discovered my sister was a prostitute in NV. I was stunned, addled, speechless. Having no parents, I was the parent surrogate. For 25 years, we've never spoken about it. She moved on to other employment, and I've never addressed or welcomed any conversation of that time in her life. Your parents sound waaaay ahead of the curve.
Granted, there are few other occupations as stigmatized wholesale, but many of us have pockets of our work that no one else, including family, want to hear about. I have an occasional cathartic desire to grieve my failures, lapses, lawsuits, and shame. My family doesn't want to hear about it. Whispers only, "how's that patient doing who died.?"
Are you over-responding to the "you're so smart." line? You know your parents know you are intelligent. Don't quibble over the particular words they use. Mostly, they're trying to understand and will blurt out feelings.
Your parents sound wonderful.
jz- don't get me wrong, i love my parents and think they are awesome. This visit was just stressful. I'll get over it.
b- maybe at a later date.
nenad- yeah, their house is sorta on a hill...93 feet above sealevel, woohoo! and the video games are my brothers, who is currently living with them (in the midst of a divorce).
Ren, how's your brother with your career choices, and does he get any subtle or not so subtle grief from your parents for anything (like living in their basement while divorcing?) I ask because my parents are pretty critical and judgmental generally and having my sisters to commiserate with is my saving grace sometimes.
Ruth
Ruth- my brother seems to have no opinion on the matter, and no, not a lot of grief.
Uhhggg....Cringed when I read that. I have been in variations on that conversation with my family.
If you substitute sex work with various performing arts, you would get many, many people nodding their heads when it comes to parental understanding. "How are you going to make a living (fill in the blank)?!"
What really stood out though is how that scene mirrored my sister's decision to get married and have a family right out of college. Jesus, you would have thought that had never been done in all of human history. "But, you're so smart! All that education..."
In fairness though, the mother/child relationship is unique. It is not unexpected that one's mother might express every imaginable anxiety. It's another thing to have that conversation with your college buddies when you decide that an extra income dancing on the side might be good to avoid grad student loans. Especially in areas like the humanities, religion, philosophy where the parental "how are you going to make a living" query might have some, albeit tiny bit, of validity.
My mom seems to think that I work too much and that my children are not well enough taken care of. I am working very hard right now trying to make a career, but I still bring home the kids from daycare two-three days a week no later than any other parent. (The other days their dad takes them.) It is obvious that she feels that their mother (me) would give them "better" care than their father can (no, we're not divorced). She's kind of old-fashioned, but she was a stay-at-home mom with us and I guess she feels that is the right way to do things. My father passed away a year and a half ago, and I think, but am not sure, that he would be a little more understanding.
What I want to say with this is that although our situations are very different, the need or will to have your parents approve of and support you in everything you do is sometimes a little bit... futile? That although your parents love you --- perhaps even because they love you --- they always feel that you could have it slightly better than you do? And especially if you choose to do something that is more or less radically different from what everyone else is doing, they are worried or distressed or at least not quite at ease with what you do?
I mean, I know my mother loves me. I wish, to a degree, that she would also be proud of me because I work so hard and I am doing quite well in my field. I think, from the sound of it, that your parents love you. However, they do not seem to be entirely comfortable in embracing what you do for a living. I think the only way of getting around that is to think that "I am not my parents. I don't have to be embraced by them entirely" --- I think it is a strong urge to be and one of the things that pained me when my father was gone was that there would be one less person who would be able to be proud of me in the sense that only parents can be proud of their children.
But you are your own person, and you must be. Especially if you do something which has to with sex, because family relations and sex --- well, we'll have to come along way before that would not be kind of strange, wouldn't we? I am not saying that it is right the way it is, I am just saying that it is the way it is. Sexual thoughts about family members, children or parents, are kind of taboo. Sex is taboo in general but thinking about your children in a sexual way is taboo in particular. And it seems that they are trying hard to maintain their good relation to you, even though they find it problematic to think about what you do for a living, and if that is not proof of love, I don't know what is.
Thanks, anonymous @ 9:42AM. You do prove the axiom that "Terrible people will never not be terrible people".
You know, I know it is in no way similar to the shit you have to go through, Ren, but i get the "Why can't you live up to your intellect?" line all the time from my father and my sister. ZOMG, I really like teaching, so being in teaching as opposed to research is some form of TRAVESTY! WHY can't I choose a more lucrative career?!
*eyeroll* Because my decisions are my decisions, and not theirs. And only a complete fool would think that my decisions impact anyone else. The exact same goes for you. People who see porn and see a human being that is less than them aren't doing so because of the porn. They do so because that is the mindset they entered with into the equation. Anonymous and your parents are the perfect xample. The porn isn't what made you less than a person in their minds. Their view of porn and women in porn is what made them think so. Any other statement is taking away the actual demon that exists in society, that women, in general, are less than. I think that's where the core disconnect comes from.
Not that a woman in porn is less than others, but that women who would choose to be sexual in any form that is known to anyone else.
"but you are so smart...."
Lots of folks get that. For you the issue is sex work, for me it has always been my inherent entrepreneurial urges. For others it is what political party they choose.
My answer is always the same... "since we agree I am smart, why do you keep insisting I am doing something dumb?"
As for Mr E's remarks: I've had to shift occupational gears various times in my life for physical reasons, family crises, needed more money, etc. As I've written before, I've had more than one job at a time. Also, two of my old jobs no longer exist, all because of the little miracle we are currently typing on... another was outsourced. Anything can happen. Always be prepared!
I'm sure that is what he is thinking, too. :)
Love ya... and you sure do attract the Dudley Do-Rights, huh? :P
First off, to Anony #1: Bug off and get a vibrator.
To the main root of Ren's post, though: It's not that uncommon that parents will have that attitude towards their children's personal decisions....but the fact remains that after all the grief and moaning and the praying, they are still going to have to face the fact that their daughter is a fully grown WOMAN who reserves the right to make decisions about her own life and body...even if they don't particularly like her decisions.
As long as she doesn't impose her personal life on you, and that she still acts and behaves as a caring and loving daughter (or son) to her family, then there should be NO DAMN ISSUE about what she does on her time and dime. Whatever happened to the idea of UNCONDITIONAL love; the kind where you love a person in spite of -- or BECAUSE OF -- her particular human traits, even when they might not merge with the "normal".
It's perfectly OK, Ren, to grieve that your parents might not respect your chosen profession or your choice of private life; that comes with the territory of being a rebel; whether political, sexual, or otherwise.
As the Jim Croce lyric goes, you just can't (or won't) please everyone...so just please yourself. The people who really know you best and respect you for who you are will stand by you.
And as for those like Anony #1 who will always attempt to make women like Ren feel guilty about herself as a strayer from the flock of "society": well, the typical two-gun, middle finger salute will suffice for now. They will always find some reason to put her down, anyway...so to hell with 'em.
She does it. She loves it. She gets paid doing it. She still does it. Her body, her choice. Deal with it.
Next issue, please.
Anthony
Oh...and one quick side memo to Natalia: We don't have zombies down here in our South Louisiana swamps. The gators chew them up as soon as they land.
Just saying. :-)
Anthony
A bit late coming to this post, but I would like to add a thought.
Ren, I understand what you are feeling ... I have the same relationship with my family. The circumstances are different but the effect on me is the same.
Also, in so far as the community goes, I cannot improve on roykays words:
"The truth is that your head is screwed on a lot straighter than tha of most of society.
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Side note: Personally, I am very very glad you are part of this world and wish it have millions more just like you."
My feelings exactly (minus the typos)!
Bright Blessings
Outis
I'm sorry if you get some version of this comment twice (I don't think the last one worked. My internet connection is terrible.).
What I wanted to say was mostly that: I'm really, really sorry that you have to deal with the kind of disapproval you're registering from your parents.
I think the first anonymous poster here is an asshole. God... I hate these trolls who can't even pick an actual name to use.
Also, I'm a little uncomfortable with some of the comparisons that some people have made with regard to parental disapproval over other jobs (like teaching). I can see where you're coming from, but I think the comparisons are problematic. Sure, I'm an academic, and I sometimes get the "don't you wish you'd become a lawyer and made a lot more money?" shit from my parents. But I don't think this is the same thing. There is no dehumanizing stigma attached to what I do. My job is relatively privileged in our culture. When I go home, there's no implicit rule against discussing what I do. And I don't think you should have to deal with any of those things either. I think that sucks. And I'm sorry.
It all makes me really appreciate everything that you and others are doing to disrupt and challenge the stigma. To echo the sentiments of others, I also think the world is a much better place for having you in it.
I posted here a few days ago anonymously to thank you for this blog (signed as Kristin). Not because I care if you, Ren, figure out who I am from my IP address or whatever. But because I've noticed that an awful lot of asshat trolls show up here, and I don't want any and everyone to know my full name and identifying information... Hence, new google email address.
Thanks, again, for making yourself heard.
Kristin
Anthony: As the Jim Croce lyric goes, you just can't (or won't) please everyone...so just please yourself.
Those lyrics were written by Ozzie and Harriet's son, late teenybopper idol Ricky Nelson. The song is "Garden Party" --about his early-70s show in Madison Square Garden. It's all autobiographical, even names his hits: "I said hello to Mary Lou/ She belongs to me." etc. (And of COURSE you know the song, "HELLO MARY LOU, GOODBYE HEART")
The twin musicians called "Nelson" from the 80s (90s?), were Ricky's boys and looked just like him.
signed,
Old lady that just could not let that pass :P
Ricky Nelson – not a follower of most of his work, but I love his Bakersfield country version of "Fools Rush In". Introduced to it by way of Kenneth Anger's "Scorpio Rising", of all places.
Ubber late comment (I was on vacation myself)...but I just had to add...
Ren, I'm very sorry that you don't feel like you can share the whole you with your parents. Its strange, but it seems to me that in many cases (not necessarily yours) children are this repository for all the thing their parents wanted to accomplish. Not meeting those expectations (regardless of how dumb) can be painful.
My parents consider me a failure as a person and a woman because I don't have/want children and I don't "take care of" my husband. My work (lawyer) isn't discussed because its absolutely shameful that I engage in any type of work that isn't volunteer or community service oriented. At family functions I am only allowed to discuss my children's rights pro bono work. Anything else any everyone will start going on about how it such a waste because I'm "so good with kids" after all.
My husband's parents consider him a failure because I make more money than he does. Working at a human rights think tank and teaching? That will never result in the millions that are required to achieve full personhood in their eyes.
I don't know what to do about it...Other than to be angry and hurt and remind myself that I am proud of myself even if they are not.
Kristen....the one with the "e"
Anony: Who wouldn't be disappointed?
Perhaps anyone who acknowledges that their child is a separate human, and that an "amazing adult" is not defined by their job?
Personally, I object on a moral level to the (non-sex work) jobs of some of my siblings, but it's not my place to judge them. They're still awesome people despite what they get paid to do, and I'm not shallow enough to reject blood over something so arbitrary.
Ren: Facing something similar myself at the moment. So stressful :( I'm sorry your time with your parentals was strained.
Lead the revolution, girl! U GO GIRL!!
How a child prodigy at Oxford became a £130-an-hour prostitute
With the intellect to win a place at Oxford at the age of 13, Sufiah Yusof should, by now, be carving out a high-flying career for herself.
But a decade after hitting the headlines thanks to her remarkable aptitude for mathematics - and days after her father was jailed for sexually assaulting two teenagers - Miss Yusof has been exposed as a £130-an-hour prostitute.
Calling herself Shilpa Lee, 23-year-old Miss Yusof advertises her body on an internet sex site and operates out of a back street flat in Salford.
On the website, she describes herself as a '"very pretty size 8, 32D bust and 5ft 5in tall - available for booking every day from 11am to 8pm".
She adds that she is a "sexy, smart student" who prefers "older gentlemen". When an undercover reporter visited her at the flat, Miss Yusof stripped naked and gyrated on a bed as she reeled off her list of services.
ladlover- and this affects you...how? Right then. Move along.
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