Thursday, April 10, 2008

Hummm....

"Another thing: RK is joining in on a thread on a pro-porn blog which is basically making fun of our concerns here- with several of the more infamous cowardly pornsick liberal males.

I hope you have pleased those wankers. You should be ashamed of yourself- but as Pisaquairise has eloquently illustrated, your privilege prevents this. Prove me wrong." -Laurelin

:::puts down the porn long enough to look around:::

I can only assume she means this blog, since, well, I, sparkly pony sex pozzie porn sick representitive of the people...and sex worker...posted on the matter of the offensive t-shirts.

Now, I cannot speak for the male commentors on that post...but I personally was hardly making fun of y'all. I mean, when I am, it is pretty obvious, isn't it? I agree, those shirts are disgusting, and I even do actually like many-a-offensive t-shirt. Own several myself..."Eat, Fuck, Kill" being a favorite. Someone over there made the comment that none of the sex poz's had made a little thunder over those shirts, I stated it was because well gee, hadn't seen them, then proceeded to condemn them as sick and disgusting, but hey, you know, I've been a little busy here lately and simply had not heard about them. How is that making fun of y'all?

???

I mean, come on, all things considered, don't you think I might have a few reasons to be sickened and angry about shirts that make fun of cutting up hookers? Mainstream, fake, whatever? That I might have a reason or two to find them threatening or disgusting? Gee....I wonder. Oh wait, no I don't. I know exactly why I'd be offended by them...

BUT...

You know...

Failure to advocate for sex workers rights and seeing that their professions remain illegal and wrapped up in a great deal of stigma does nothing to change the attitude that allows for people to find that sort of thing funny...because it denies such women legal rights and the ability to be seen as human. Maybe chew on that for a bit.

And what about Yousof?

*Edit- Laurelin's clarification noted.

90 comments:

Sarah J said...

how about her privilege prevents her from even making an effort to understand sex workers and their concerns?

gag.

Alex Tchekmeian said...

Please lighten up. My shirts are designed to entertain, not offend.

And I also forward proceeds to various charities. I actually support hookers, in all reality. ;)

http://cll.bizjournals.com/story_image/108005-400-0.jpg?rev=2
http://orlando.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2008/01/21/smallb1.html?page=2

You may contact me on my sites here:
http://www.alextchekmeian.com/

Renegade Evolution said...

Ah, Alex, Alex, Alex....

Where to begin?

How about here...don't tell me to lighten up. I'm a grim, grim, person with a very odd sense of humor...rarely ever "light". And see, I don't think your shirts are funny at all. When hookers getting cut up is a daily occurance, sorry, I just can't manage to make light of it. I don't find it entertaining. And I don't find it all all "cool" when schmucks who have never done the job profit off it, in ANY manner, but especially one like that. Humor predicated on the violent deaths of others? Generally not funny, even if it does sell.

You're a jew right? How about for you next design, you do "Gas the Jews?" Maybe "Hitler was right" See, I too, am a jew, and that would piss me off. Maybe "Hang the blacks?" "Rape the Women?" "Beat gays?" "Molest the children?"

Hardee har har.

And I am sure hookers everywhere are just THRILLED that someone who contributes in such a manner to their dehumanization also supports them... How so, might I ask? You give money to sex worker outreach programs, or pay to get your dick sucked? Big difference.

Tell ya what, come on down to DC, we'll put your ass out on the streets for a few nights...THEN you can say shirts that proclaim "Cutting Up Hookers" are funny.

belledame222 said...

Who's RK?

And: Alex! Bubbeleh! So glad you could join us! Hey, can we cut off your 'nads and stick 'em in a Cuisanart? Sell your kidneys on eBay and give the proceeds to Society For Cutting Up Men? Oh, c'mon, LAUGH! It's FUNNY. And, you're boring, it's not like you'd be missed or anything.

Renegade Evolution said...

Belle: RK is RoyKay, who comments here from time to time, and walked into the lionesses den during feeding time.

belledame222 said...

oh lordies. you know, she...yeah, whatever, actually. -flick-

belledame222 said...

-kicks Alex on the shins with steel-tipped boots-

What? Hey, it wasn't MEANT to break your ankles, it was meant to make you tap-dance! It's FUNNY! And, look, got a reaction! That means I'm CLEVER. --What's that you say? Oh, you want me to stop?

-stomps on Alex's foot, grinds into it with spike heel, snapping several little bones-

Your lips said no, but your feet were so asking for it. -stompity stomp stomp-

Alex Tchekmeian said...

Oy vey.

Please don't ever compare jews to hookers or gays again. That is just plain insulting, and you should know better if you really are one.

A better analogy would be to "beat up bums," "Superman strippers" or "kill Republicans." You know, keeping with the whole "low-life" theme here. (no offense to anyone)

Look, I respect your right to dissent. But you should also respect my right to exercise free speech. Which I see absolutely nothing wrong with.

Apparently you guys are too uptight to get my shirts - but plenty do. It's no different than a comedian. Should he quit simply because a few find him offensive? Shit, if that were the case, half of Jewish comics would be flipping burgers right now!

Look, I have some advice. Have a coupla tequila shots and come back when your sphincters have relaxed a notch. Lighten up, life is fun!

Alex Tchekmeian said...

PS, hookers sure don't complain when they take my dolla dolla bills yall! So all's well that ends well, say I.

Renegade Evolution said...

Alex honey- when making comparisons amid marginalized groups, I will make whatever ones I want. FREE SPEECH, low life asshole :)

And, I objected to your shirts, did I say you SHOULDN'T have the right to make or sell them? NO. I said no such thing whatsoever. I said I thought they were vile, not that you don't (or shouldn't) have the right to make them.

What's to get, by the way? That cutting up hookers isn't funny? Humm, as someone who knows hookers that has happened too, gee, not laughing.

And I drink Jagermeister.

belledame222 said...

Really, Alex? It's insulting to compare Jews to gays? And "hookers," how exciting. Hey, I'm Jewish AND gay, and your friendly hostess here--

and you, well, YOU'RE a GENIUS, aren't you?

Look, putz, take RE's advice: go peddle your sad ass on Sunset Blvd. for a few nights, then come back and tell us how hilarious the experience was, yeah? Anyway, -we'll- laugh.

you worthless smear of dogshit. -cue laugh track- Joke! Get it?! All forms of hostility are acceptable if you put a big smiley face next to it and say I DUDN'T MEEN IT!

Hey, Alex! DIE IN A FIRE. :-) ;-O

Renegade Evolution said...

Alex- I bet they don't. But you might cry if you ever heard what they said about you to their friends later...

pst, belle, which Creepy Guy do you think Alex here is....

http://renegadeevolution.blogspot.com/2007/12/creepy-dudes.html

I'm betting the Cheerleader Mach II or the Stud...

Alex Tchekmeian said...

Ok, fair enough then.

I and many young men and women find my shirts uproariously funny.

A few harpies on the internet don't.

We done yet?

Or would you like me to send you a complimentary Cuttin T-shirt?


And to 222 - you seem very very angry. I don't think I can help you. Ever consider applying for Dr Phil's show?

belledame222 said...

Gosh, Alex, I and many men and women of all ages think I'm really quite funny. I'm not angry at all. Where's your sense of humor? Are you irony impaired? I was JOKING. Sheesh, dude. Some of my best friends are clueless troglodytes! I love 'em! Hours of entertainment! Better than pinatas.

Renegade Evolution said...

Alex- Only if you deliver it personally. I have a couple knives laying around and all.

And psst....part of being a "comic" or an "artist" is realizing that WOW, people WILL be critical of you! How you handle that? Hummm...speaks to something else entirely. And the "Ignore the tits" shirt is way funnier.

Djiril said...

Please don't ever compare jews to hookers or gays again. That is just plain insulting, and you should know better if you really are one.
Well, I think that shows what you think of those two groups as human beings if you think jokes about violence towards gays and hookers are somehow more acceptable than jokes about violence towards Jews.
As a Jew, I can certainly see the connection, and there is nothing offensive about the comparison.

pisaquari said...

Not even enough guts to comment on the original post decrying your "filth" Alex?

"...free speech. Which I see absolutely nothing wrong with."


Alex there is a major difference between the right to *speak freely* and *free speech*. "Cuttin up Hookers" is not free, it's expensive and no woman can afford it--the numbers of prostitutes mutilated daily says as much.

Just because fuckers like YOU incur no cost doesn't mean it's *free*.

Get a real job Alex.


(I'mma fish outta water here but you deserve every brutal remark that comes your way.)

belledame222 said...

RE: All of them, I think, particularly the one with the grey fungus.

Alex Tchekmeian said...

Oooh edgeplay...so 1998.

So on the sexual cutting edge here *chuckle*

What's next, swallowing and *gasp* booty sex?

Wake me up when you get to 2008, hun. I didn't get kicked out of the cub scouts for nothing.

Renegade Evolution said...

pisaquari;

"(I'mma fish outta water here but you deserve every brutal remark that comes your way.)"

Agreed. Fire at will. I may not agree with you on anything else, but...damn.

Renegade Evolution said...

Smirk.

"What's next, swallowing and *gasp* booty sex?"

You have ANY idea where you are, cupcake?

Alex Tchekmeian said...

An angry lesbian book club?

roykay said...

Well, it IS nice to know who is actually designing these. Now that that is established:

>A better analogy would be to "beat up bums," "Superman strippers" or "kill Republicans." You know, keeping with the whole "low-life" theme here. (no offense to anyone)

Personally, none of these OR "Cutting Up Hookers" seems like adroit parody to me - or anything else favorable.

Here's why:

Hookers are targeted by serial killers from time to time. They are also harrassed by the law, be it Taliban law or Elliott Spitzer. In short they have enemies within the law and outside of it - often deadly enemies.

Does the message parody this? Not that I see. It isn't exactly "A Modest Proposal", so surreally out of the ordinary that no one takes it seriously, and some face a dawn of self-recognition. It's too close to things that actually happen and are a blight on society and an atrocity to the victims.

That's why I distrusted any allegation of provenance. It didn't work against the atrocity, and I can't envision anyone in their right mind would be working towards it. I also can't envision anyone buying these and wearing them.

You have the right to manufacture them - though I doubt you have done so - but I would advise you not to exercise that right and to turn your talents elsewhere.

I am sure there is a decent market for a pro-hooker t-shirt. I'd be willing to come up with a slogan or two to that end. I do request, however, that you pull the whole shock-scam t-shirt program down.

Renegade Evolution said...

pfft. I'm as het as they get.

J. Goff said...

An angry lesbian book club?

All out to chop your shriveled cock off, Alex, and break your balls with the nearest OED. HI-LAR-I-OUS, amiright?

belledame222 said...

Funny guy, Alex. They appreciate that sort of humor at that nice Christian school you just gave a keynote speech at? That's your alma mater, hey? That must've been a fun little experience for you, Alexeh. But hey, nothing succeeds like success, right? The American Dream in action right here, Maud bless it. makes you proud. brings a goddam tear to your eye, it do

Chuckie K said...

That 'free speech' is, as they say, priceless. I have the right to say whatever I want, so you shut the fuck up!

Seraph said...

"I and many young men and women find my shirts uproariously funny.

A few harpies on the internet don't."

Woah, Tchekmeian?

I'm a straight chick in my early twenties, known to occasionally be "hip" with my manic panic and my graphic tees and my skinny jeans and my ironic humor and my useless liberal arts education...

And I think those shirts are fucking disgusting.

And in my hip little town, my relatively safe smallish city, the perfect place to be in your early twenties with your ironic humor and your shock art? Girls my age are afraid to walk downtown at night lest we are mistaken for prostitutes because hookers have been disappearing lately. Except for one, who was dismembered under a bridge I walk or drive under every other day.

So no. Your shirts are not funny, other than producing that unpleasant laugh that's a response to something that makes you really, really uncomfortable.

And yeah, Ren, he has NO idea who he's talking to here. NO clue.

chani said...

Here's what I find the most disturbing. Young Alex has just become an uncle of what I can only assume, given the name, is a wee baby girl. And he's damn proud of it too. Given that, the fact that he thinks there is nothing wrong with selling anything that advocates hurting women is, well, horrifying. And it sure makes me glad that little girl isn't his.

Alex, they have places for people like you, they're called sterilization clinics.

It doesn't matter a bit what you do with your money after you've made it by encouraging people to hurt other people. It's like when Sudan makes a big too do about their humanitarian projects. It's sick and it's sad. You should seek help, really.

Seraph said...

PS: Tchekmeian, my boyfriend would like to point out that you were insulted by being compared to gays while virtually in same breath implying that you got kicked out of cub scouts for having "booty sex." Hmmmm.

Plus the fact that you sound -exactly- like my favorite gay ex-boyfriend. Would you like his email addy? You'd make a terribly cute couple. Two assholes, together forever. Having "booty sex."

SnowdropExplodes said...

Alex Tchekmeian said...

An angry lesbian book club?

Gosh, I'm a lesbian? That's news to me (checks quickly)... nope, I still seem to have dangly bits rather than a slippery slit.

I'm a man and I find those t-shirts offensive, and I can certainly see why a woman who is actually in the sex industry (our delightful host, for example) would feel personally affronted and threatened by a garment with such a slogan on it (although, again, our host has a delightful line in threatening behaviour herself, and the means to carry out those threats - didn't you know she's in the Russian Mafia!?)

I completely see the analogy between advocating (even in jest) the murder of prostitutes, and the advocating of violence against Jews (or Blacks, or any other maligned group). As soon as you regard any group of people as "lower" (for example, as "low-lifes" in your own words above) then it becomes okay to brutalise them. That is precisely why it was possible for Hitler to use the Jews as a scapegoat for Germany's economic problems - because the populace at large viewed Jews as "low-life". If you can't see that, then you are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.

As for your "freedom of speech", your t-shirts are nothing but incitement to violence towards women. It's easy to laugh at incitement to violence when you're not the victim of that violence. That's why several European nations outlaw incitement to violence, and why we view that as a legitimate restriction on free speech. (The fact that Hitler was one of ours, and we really mean it when we say "never again", may have something to do with that - the Germans have even outlawed Holocaust denial for the same reasons).

As for, "My shirts are designed to entertain, not offend": in my home town when I was 7, there was a disaster at the local carnival procession and bonfire. A spark from the fire went into an unsealed crate of fireworks, setting off the whole lot before they were set up. Many people were injured, some seriously. One of those who was hospitalised for weeks, was someone the same age as me, in my class at school.

Do you think the organisers should have escaped any kind of censure or lawsuit, because "those fireworks were designed to entertain, not hurt people"?

Or is it fair that people be judged by the consequences of their negligent behaviour? Your shirts may not be intended to offend. But a carelessly chosen slogan can be very harmful.

Plain(s)feminist said...

No, the cupcake has no clue, Ren.

Dude, you are in over your head.

~settles back to watch~

Anonymous said...

Hey we've almost got enough to have a minyan! Of course, I wouldn't daven in a temple that accepts alex....

thene said...

Hang about, I know that book club jibe. Is this really Mr T-Shirt Guy trolling you, or is it 'shocker' from a few weeks back, aka Byrdeye, aka shitstain that just won't come out of the carpet no matter what you rub into it?

Anthony Kennerson said...

Ahhhh, Alex:

Wrong analogy, asswhack.

Some of us, including us MEN, don't think that promoting the killing of either "bums" OR "hookers" is very funny at all...and we reserve the right to call your sorry ass out for that.

Now, if there are men and women who really do find your T's so funny that they will buy them...well, it's their money and their issues. (Of course, if your shirts were so damn popular, then you wouldn't have to peddle them on your site or have to pimp yourself here looking for hits, now wouldn't ya??)

Tell 'ya what, Alex....put your money where your mouth is and donate all of your profits from your T's to a group like SWOPEast or some other actual agency protecting sex workers from the very violence you promote.....and maybe, I'll take you halfway serious. Until then....you FAIL.


Anthony

Falyne said...

*grabs popcorn*

Ren, I seem to recall seeing some sort of resume-type deal of yours at some point. Dunno if it was here or on NSFW. I think it'd blow his silly silly brains out.

I also took a quick glance in a couple months of the archives to try and find a suitably unvanilla picture, but didn't have much luck (and my compiler optimization homework, sadly, calls).

Anonymous said...

It's no different than a comedian.

it's way different. see, i can tell, on account of comedians are funny.

now, talking about hurting people can be cathartic, when it's somebody who really, truly deserves to get hurt. imagining vengeance and sadism against somebody who's done you harm can bring emotional release --- but in the end, it isn't healthy.

talking about hurting random strangers who've done you no harm is sociopathic, and in my own arrogant opinion is a sign that you haven't been hurt enough, or badly enough, yourself to have learned better.

(i've got this fond delusion that corporal punishment can teach sociopaths the value of empathy, see. it's unrealistic and vain, but indulging in it it brings me emotional release of a type at least somewhat less unhealthy than it is to be hanging around sociopaths...)

laughing at the thought of hurting random strangers for no good reason... i'd say you need therapy, except that sociopathy really isn't curable. what you need is to get caught, and locked up someplace where you can't hurt any more people. meanwhile, i'll be right here daydreaming about shooting you dead like a rabid dog. the rest of our readers here will likely think me borderline crazy for it, and they may be right --- but you really don't have any cause for complaint, now do you, alex?

Trinity said...

"Oooh edgeplay...so 1998."

ROFLWAFFLE.

Assuming you're using the term to mean "knifeplay" and not "personal envelope-pushing" like most *actual sadomasochists I know*...

Um, honeycakes? IMX people who have actually done edgeplay (rather than sitting around wishing they had anything resembling guts) don't generally sit around babbling about how they're "so over that, dahling!"

My bet's on you crapping your pants immediately, should you ever so much as glimpse Ren holding a knife.

Lisa Harney said...

The t-shirts are bad enough, but the justifications Tchekmeian there offered for making them just makes it worse. The whine that he's just exercising his free speech and we have no right to question that (even though that, too, is free speech) is pathetic, and the declaration that it's offensive to compare Jews to gays (who were also put in the camps) and prostitutes just shows a level of hate for those groups that isn't justifiable if you want to come across as a human being.

And no one who supports sex workers would produce clothing declaring intent to dismember sex workers.

You're one of the most disgusting men I've had the displeasure to read - right up there with Warren Farrell recommending father-daughter incest.

belledame222 said...

thene: you know, it did cross my mind that it'd be odd for someone to be THAT stupid to post their real name...

if it IS byrdshit, my deepest apologies to the real Alex Tchekmeian. -goes off to take a closer look-

Renegade Evolution said...

i don' think byrd would allude to me having issues with anal sex...

belledame222 said...

-Someone- out there is a fairly epic troll, though.

belledame222 said...

...nope, the "Cuttin Up Hookers" site
links directly to

http://www.aktenterprises.com/

which is little Alex here. So, it's him. Or else someone's gone to the trouble of designing a hideously misogynistic T-shirt line and linking it to this Alex person, which is a level of trolling beyond my concern. on with the show.

Dw3t-Hthr said...

Wow. He's not even smart enough to read the sidebar.

About as sharp as a sackful of wet mice.

K said...

"And: Alex! Bubbeleh! So glad you could join us! Hey, can we cut off your 'nads and stick 'em in a Cuisanart? Sell your kidneys on eBay and give the proceeds to Society For Cutting Up Men? Oh, c'mon, LAUGH! It's FUNNY. And, you're boring, it's not like you'd be missed or anything."

Just finished reading the whole thread, and I don't have much to add beyond:
You, belldame222, are AWESOME.

I'm relatively new to reading this blog, and, well... This was probably the coolest, most hilarious shaming of an evil fuck that I've ever had the privilege to see in the blogosphere. Well done.

belledame222 said...

oh, k, I'm glad you think so, but Alex has informed me that I am merely Very Very Angry, and therefore, one presumes, Not Funny. :( I get so confused about these things. Fortunately, we have experts like little Alex here to put us all straight, as it were.

andi said...

Advocating cutting up ANYONE is sick, Hooker, Celibate, Gay, Jew - doesn't matter. They are first and foremost PEOPLE.
People who deserve to be safe, to be treated with respect, the same respect you would want for yourself or your loved ones. If you think these shirts are entertaining -well then you and I have a VERY different idea of entertainment.

and as for this:
Alex Tchekmeian -"An angry lesbian book club?" You wish, it were that simple - you wish.
In these commenters, I see Gays, Straights, Marrieds, Singles, and one Celibate. Can you even begin to guess who is whom?

If not - then how the hell do you think you and your customers are going to know whom to cut? If you think tell us apart on the internet is hard - reality's a bitch, bucko.

Anthony Kennerson said...

Getting away from Alex the Un-Wanker (because he is an insult to true wankers, let alone all decent men who happen to not dislike masturbating) and going back to the root of Ren's story, allow me to put Laurelin at ease.

Ahhh, Madame...rest assured that while I don't speak for all of the "cowardly pornsick liberal males" (and, BTW, as far as moi is concerned, you only got the fourth word correct, since I am nowhere near a coward; I actually LOVE nondegrading, consensual adult porn, which makes me not sick at all (though, I am suffering through a bout of the flu even as I type); and I'm very much politically Left of "liberal"), I would think that my unambiguous denouncement and repudiation of those T-shirts as nothing less than an atrocious support of murdering women hardly constitutes "making fun of our concerns here".

Consider how much you and your allies spend much of your own bandwidth in dissing our side in ways far, far more grevious than merely "making fun of our concerns"....you know, like threatening to out one of our main members by revealing her real name to her family; implying that we "pornsick liberal men" really are "pimps" who only want to sleep with the sex-pox girls or at least just get into their panties (remember, Laurelin, when some of your allies were accusing me of being Ren's "pimp"?? Or Ginmar's outing of IACB as having a weird fetish?? Or Carolyn Hoffman basicaly saying that the reason I defend porn is because I actually do ejaculate on women?? Actually, I never have..but you know what I mean.)

Maybe the reason why some folks MIGHT wish to make fun of your side, Laurelin, is because, well, your side's attempt to justify their ideology does become, well, comical if not hilarious. At least, it would be were it not so damn tragic.

And incidently....saying that not allowing sex workers to speak for themselves about their experiences and assuming the worst for all of them merely to sell your "MALE SEX SUCKS!!! BECOME A RADICALLESBIAN!!!one11!! memes hardly translates into ignoring the obscenity of "Cutting Up Hookers" T-shirts...nor is saying that denying their full humanity kinda fuels the very same rejection of their humanity that both your side AND the Alex Tchekmeians of the world build your respective empires by, does not in any way make that "making fun of our efforts". It's simply called "saying the damn TRUTH".

Meanwhile, real live women -- sex workers, porn performers, and mere sexually active women -- are being assaulted, dehumanized, and denied basic freedoms and rights right under our noses. I ask one more time: What's your plan for them, other than to wipe them off the face of the earth?? We have ours; show us yours...if you got 'em.


Anthony

DJ Carson D said...

Look pal, (Yeah, I realize he stopped reading a long time ago) if you have the right to free speech to print that crap, then we have the right to free speech to call you a sick wanker fuck. It's quite clear you haven't got a clue how stupid and assanine your second post makes you look. Your shit isn't funny, ha ha or even funny sick, it is just plain sick.

Iamcuriousblue said...

Alex Tchekmeian said:

"Apparently you guys are too uptight to get my shirts - but plenty do. It's no different than a comedian."

Yeah, I hear Michael Richards does a hee-fucking-larious set....

OK, for your benefit – Offensive T-Shirt Humor 101:

This is funny. "Cuttin' Up Hookers" ain't. I guess if you can't grok that, then its something I can't really explain.

Iamcuriousblue said...

Renegade Evolution asks:

You have ANY idea where you are, cupcake?

Alex Tchekmeian responds:

An angry lesbian book club?

Oh, I see – no, this is Angry Perverts Club – I think you want Room 12A, just along the corridor.

alex said...

Ok, um, some assclown was impersonating me and I'm sorry if anyone was unduly offended.

I love all women, not the least of which hookers!

So as a token of goodwill, I'm willing to send anyone a free "Cuttin' Up Hookers" T-shirt personally signed by my radboy designer, Jared. And if you send in some photos of you wearing them, I might even add them to my site.

Let's just stop the hate and let the good times roll, people! ;)

belledame222 said...

i've got this fond delusion that corporal punishment can teach sociopaths the value of empathy, see. it's unrealistic and vain, but indulging in it it brings me emotional release of a type at least somewhat less unhealthy than it is to be hanging around sociopaths...)

yeah, sadly, I don't think such things do in fact infuse empathy. the opposite, if anything. but, the threat of punishment does sometimes seem to work in a strict behavior-modification way when nothing else does. sucks that it's only ever going to be "fear of consequences/getting caught," but hey, if that's what it takes for some people.

so, clearly this douchebag does not believe that targeting "lowlifes" will have any blowback for him.

...

and yes, absolutely: the fantasy makes ONESELF feel better.

teh witch :) said...

Don't flatter yourself Anthony, nor try to gain creds through false humility. You're a wanker - we all know that now. We know where you're coming from.

Tosser.

Currently Blogless Bastante Kim said...

"A better analogy would be to "beat up bums," "Superman strippers" or "kill Republicans." You know, keeping with the whole "low-life" theme here. (no offense to anyone)"

You stupid, smug, milk-toast, coddled son of a bitch. "Lowlife." "Kicked out of Cub Scouts." Wow. You ain't see shit, pal.

It's okay to make funny funny jokes at the "lowlife" then: the hookers, the "bums" aka homeless population.
I'm sure my clients - some who are both-- would have some funny funny times with you down at the soup kitchen, you pompous little prick.

'Cept I you're be too busy preening in the mirror, imagining your interview and photo shoot in Details mag as The Next Big Entrepreneur while trying to come up with the next oh-so-edgy and FUNNY little t-shirty slogan to go to a soup kitchen, aren't you, junior?

Good thing, too.
You're so wet behind the ears regarding any experience with real "lowlife" they'd fucking eat you alive.

"Lesbian book convention."

BORING.
Wow, THAT was creative.
What a damn creative genius your are.

tsx said...

Ok, um, some assclown was impersonating me

And all he had to do was act naturally.

-----

i've got this fond delusion that corporal punishment can teach sociopaths the value of empathy, see.

Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

Iamcuriousblue said...

Trolling again, Witchy?

Jill Brenneman said...

Alex who do your shirts entertain? Perhaps the genius male with the low sloping forehead, that thinks high school was the greatest time of his life, assuming he has made it to high school as the average junior high school boy in gym class probably would be amused by your shirts.

Did you conjure up this brilliant concept of an "entertaining" t-shirt at home or in your office in some shitty strip mall in the low rent office quarter of Orlando?

What is the most fulfilling moment of your life Alex? Getting WESH anchor Jim Payne's autograph?

However in the spirit of fairness you are certainly welcome to come onto XBN, SWOP East Blog Talk Radio as a guest. Contact me at swopeastncatgmaildotcom I'd like the opportunity for you to share your wisdom with a live audience.

Anthony Kennerson said...

I see that Witchy-Woo's back on her rage again:

Don't flatter yourself Anthony, nor try to gain creds through false humility. You're a wanker - we all know that now. We know where you're coming from.

Tosser.


Nice try, madame, but I do happen to read blogs....and my response will come later today, after I get off work.

"False humility"??? Consider the source, please.

Better to be a wanker who cares than an evil witch any day.


Anthony

Anthony

Anthony Kennerson said...

Alex:

Don't play us, please.

Better people than you have attempted to play the sockpuppet here.

Your crappy T's ain't selling here. Move along, please.


Anthony

Joanne said...

My name is Alex Tchekmeian. I am 21 year old entrepreneur who is absolutely taken back by what is occurring right now.

My company is a t-shirt manufacturing and distribution warehouse. I am a regular guy who started receiving many emails regarding "my clothing line called cuttin' up hookers." and how disappointed people were in me.

After doing some extensive research I found this web site that somebody went on and posted fake comments trying to mask themselves as me. I have no direct affiliation with this clothing brand and people are acting as if it was my idea...

I am so beside myself because I would never write the things that were written here. I hope that this message gets through to people so that this can come to an end.

I am putting myself out there out of honesty so that this can be resolved. The truth of the matter is I have no affiliation with this organization and I do not support it. Somebody has posted falsified comments attempting to take a direct hit to my reputation and hard work.

My direct email is alex@aktenterprises.com.

Anonymous said...

My name is Alex Tchekmeian. I am 21 year old entrepreneur who is absolutely taken back by what is occurring right now.

My company is a t-shirt manufacturing and distribution warehouse. I am a regular guy who started receiving many emails regarding "my clothing line called cuttin' up hookers." and how disappointed people were in me.

After doing some extensive research I found this web site that somebody went on and posted fake comments trying to mask themselves as me. I have no direct affiliation with this clothing brand and people are acting as if it was my idea...

I am so beside myself because I would never write the things that were written here. I hope that this message gets through to people so that this can come to an end.

I am putting myself out there out of honesty so that this can be resolved. The truth of the matter is I have no affiliation with this organization and I do not support it. Somebody has posted falsified comments attempting to take a direct hit to my reputation and hard work.


My direct email is alex@aktenterprises.com.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps, Ren, you should make a t-shirt that says "stab ugly, misogynistic t-shirt designers". I'm sure Alex will think it's the height of Teh Funny.

l-gore said...

Oh pleese people, get off this troll's ass. Like Alex would really blogstomp. I'm sure he has better things to do than patronize some obscure truckstop on the info superhighway...

FashionablyEvil said...

Hey, Alex! DIE IN A FIRE

belledame, i think you must know my sister. Unless "die in a fire" is in more widespread expression than I realize...

tbear said...

Oh get off this dude's jock, people.

What it really boils down to here is free market demand and the post-Howard Stern shock pop culture amongst us today. Which is why anyone over 25 won't get our humor. There's a huge generation and cultural gap here.

We were raised on Stern, Springer, Britney Spears and internet porn. We need higher stimulus and to have our boundaries pushed farther.

You guys just don't get us. You're out of touch. We get the joke. You obviously don't. But it's not meant for you, it's for us. Look, I'm sure they whined about rap music when you were growing up too. And rock music before that. And this is no different.

belledame222 said...

Yeah, "die in a fire" is pretty common, actually.

per "anonymous:" and, okay, "Joanne" ("Joanne?!")

-cocks head- mkay.

So, yesterday, someone at RE’s publically suggests that this might not, in fact, be the real Alex T, but in fact a well-known troll. I write, well it DOES seem odd that anyone could be THIS stupid, lemme double check. I double check the site. There’s a direct link at the bottom of the Cuttin’ Up Hookers page to AKT Productions, this guy’s base of operations. So I figure, right then, on with the show.

Shortly thereafter, there’s a (now unlinked) comment in this thread by “Alex” saying:

alex said…

Ok, um, some assclown was impersonating me and I’m sorry if anyone was unduly offended.

I love all women, not the least of which hookers!

So as a token of goodwill, I’m willing to send anyone a free “Cuttin’ Up Hookers” T-shirt personally signed by my radboy designer, Jared. And if you send in some photos of you wearing them, I might even add them to my site.

Let’s just stop the hate and let the good times roll, people! ;)

***

shortly after THAT, there’s this exchange at Buried Alive:


My name is Alex Tchekmeian. I am 21 year old entrepreneur who is absolutely taken back by what is occurring right now.

My company is a t-shirt manufacturing and distribution warehouse. I am a regular guy who started receiving many emails regarding “my clothing line called cuttin’ up hookers.” and how disappointed people were in me.

After doing some extensive research I found this web site that somebody went on and posted fake comments trying to mask themselves as me. I have no direct affiliation with this clothing brand and people are acting as if it was my idea…

I am so beside myself because I would never write the things that were written here. I hope that this message gets through to people so that this can come to an end.

I am putting myself out there out of honesty so that this can be resolved. The truth of the matter is I have no affiliation with this organization and I do not support it. Somebody has posted falsified comments attempting to take a direct hit to my reputation and hard work.

My direct email is alex@aktenterprises.com.
Comment by Alex Tchekmeian - The REAL One April 14, 2008 @ 3:26 pm

(”Will the Real Alex Tchekmeian please stand up?”)

All right–welcome Alex. I am confused–does your company own District Lines?
Comment by pisaquaririse April 14, 2008 @ 3:38 pm

Yes, my company does in fact own District Lines.
Comment by Alex Tchekmeian - The REAL One April 14, 2008 @ 3:42 pm

Then you own “Cuttin’ Up Hookers” line of t-shirts, yes?
Comment by pisaquaririse April 14, 2008 @ 4:02 pm

While we do own clothing companies within AKT Enterprises (Messhead, Fuller and Skuzzy), Cuttin’ Up Hookers is not one of them. We are responsible for the printing and distribution of the Cuttin’ Up Hookers brand, however, we are not in any way the creators or promoters of the brand.

District Lines powers over 250 individual online stores, ranging from clothing companies, charities, activists and bands.
Comment by Alex Tchekmeian - The REAL One April 14, 2008

*****

I leave the interpretation of this latest development of events to you, gentle readers.

In either case it does seem that someone is doing Alex a public service, because as the REAL Alex is, by his own admission, "responsible for the printing and distribution of the Cuttin' Up Hookers" brand, he might want to take this opportunity to be apprised that many young men and women do not, in fact, approve of this particular fine line of merchandise, and he may wish to be disassociated with it henceforth.

I will also, without further comment, note this quote from his BusinessWeek profile:

Today, 20-employee AKT Enterprises consists of 15 businesses that revolve around the music industry and include merchandising, Web development, and online ticketing services. Most of AKT's clients are hardcore bands and record labels. Tchekmeian says the business had $1.3 million revenues in 2006 and estimates it will earn just over $3 million in 2007, with the bulk of the income coming from merchandising, all of which is produced in-house, because he doesn't "trust the quality of anyone else out there.”

belledame222 said...

l-gore, anon, whatever: okay, I followed your link. You know, whatever the multiple levels of clever o so clever irony here, no one actually gives a shit. They don't like the fucking T-shirts, on account of sex workers actually, unironically, do get murdered all the fucking time, often by oh so clever little boys like y'all. That's all that matters. Now fuck OFF.

Renegade Evolution said...

tbear- wear whatever the hell you want...no one is trying to stop you...by the same token, other folk don't have to find it funny. in fact, they can find it anything but.

belledame222 said...

okay, are we meant to take it that one Stefan Kane is the creator of "Cuttin' Up Hookers?" Is that whose "jock" we're supposed to be on? Is that what you're trying to tell us, tbear/l-gore?

bbzee said...

Agreed, this is plain disgusting. What kind of sick fuck would wear a T like these?





Do you offer bulk discounts, btw?

J. Goff said...

Which is why anyone over 25 won't get our humor.

Under 25 right here, numbnuts. I think you're a fucking troglodyte, and so is anybody who finds these t-shirts funny.

Iamcuriousblue said...

tbear said:

"Oh get off this dude's jock, people.

What it really boils down to here is free market demand and the post-Howard Stern shock pop culture amongst us today. Which is why anyone over 25 won't get our humor. There's a huge generation and cultural gap here."

etc


I'm not buying your "talkin' bout my generation" argument – I think I could spot a contemporary equivalent of Lenny Bruce or Johnny Rotten if one came along. You're definitely not it.

K said...

Ren, can you figure out whether all of the people who have posted as Alex are indeed Alex or not?

K said...

Just wanna be sure which one is actually Alex so I can get my hate mail right. Did he really insult gays and "hookers" and call them "low-life" scum? Or shall I write a more focused letter that talks solely about his affiliation with the t-shirts?

Iamcuriousblue said...

Ren – not asking you to out anybody's IP address here, but do the different (?) "Alexes" come from different IPs or not?

Renegade Evolution said...

iacb- in roughly the last 24 hours, I've had one, only one, visitor from Orlando FL

antiprincess said...

You guys just don't get us. You're out of touch. We get the joke. You obviously don't. But it's not meant for you, it's for us. Look, I'm sure they whined about rap music when you were growing up too. And rock music before that. And this is no different.

sure - guilty as charged. I'm forty. I'm old and settled and growing more and more bewildered by youth culture by the minute.

HOWEVER.

If the expressing "Cutting Up Hookers" is humorous on its face to some segment of the population, and made more humorous somehow by printing it on an article of clothing, that quality which makes it humorous (in other words, the reason it's funny) ought to be easily explainable by knowlegeable parties, even to such a humorless, dried-up old sagtits as myself.

perhaps there is simply some cultural gulf that needs bridging, in order to really embrace the humor embodied in "Cutting Up Hookers." I mean, consider this - soviet humor is not really get-able to the average american, unless that american knows something about soviet life and culture.

so, yeah, I'd like to see tbear et al try to put this one in context, and explain the aspects of youth culture that makes cutting up hookers funny, so that the whole class can share in the hilarity of cutting up hookers.

antiprincess said...

threadjack: why soviet humor is funny - http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=7412

belledame222 said...

well, you see, it would appear that "Cuttin' Up Hookers" is in fact the brainchild of one of his crack team members, who also lives in Orlando, is about his age, and, I'm sure, is in no way a buddy with little Alex, one Stefan Kane.



http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=2594379

stefan kane's Blurbs
About me:
I own Cuttin' Up Hookers Apparel. I drink more slurpees than you. Try me.

Who I'd like to meet:
sluts.


http://profile.myspace.com/cuttinuphookers


http://aktenterprises.com/insider/stefan-kane/

tefan Kane - Screen Printing

AKT Enterprises Team Member Profile

Stefan Kane - Screen PrintingAge: 22

Sex: Male

Hometown: Cooper City, FL

Area of Expertise: Screen Printing

Weapon of Choice: Sidekick ID

Skills: 4/4, 6/8 Auto, Heat Press

Team Member Since: 2006

Words to Live by: “You guys ready to headbang?”

the rest of the crack team:

http://aktenterprises.com/team_profiles.php

belledame222 said...

"Look, I'm gonna fool you. You dunno my act. I've got it -down- now. I work to Jewish people--I've learned how to say 'toe-kiss.' I work to the Italian people--I've got the mamma mia bit---I got it all down. I got a Jolson finish, I'll -murder- them now! You kiddin? I got so many bits now..."

Alright, into the toilet. Nothing. Into the shithouse. People are staring at him, complete blank-out. Now, after fifteen minutes he's starting to sweat...And in his inadequacy he vents his hostility on the audience:

"Ah, squares--bullshit!"

It's embarrassing...

"Folks, um, I tell you what, here's a bit that everyone likes...Folks, I'm gonna do a tune now for Al Jolson. Now you can knock me, but don't knock a guy that's dead, awright? Don't knock a guy that helped a lotta servicemen, awright?..."

...That exploitation of the dead didn't work, and it's verfallen, and he's back to the dressing room, the comedian:

Vomiting sounds, then a knock at the door

"Come in..."

In comes the house booker.

...

"Now just a minute.

"What? Did I hear 'just a minute?' Just a minute for what? To return to the Crusades? Look, Bomb-o, you stunk it up out there, you know that, don't you? Son, you don't use narcotics, do you? Cause that's the only realization I could have-you could be oblivious to the cacophany of sound out there. Son well, why...what are you -looking- at me for, you psychotic bastard, you? You're not funny, you sonovabitch! Get up! When I came out this afternoon I thought that--you're not funny. Everyone in the whole world is funny and you're not funny. That's crude, you see. But, I mean, the world is filled with unfunny people, and you're one of them, you leper! ...Now, you sign this [release] right now."

"Now just a minute."

"Just a minute for what?"

"I didn't do my spicy-blue-riské number yet."





--The Essential Lenny Bruce

me said...

Why does everyone wanna be me???

Jill Brenneman said...

Witchy Woo,

Wow.... That you place yourself and your feminism at such an artificially high and false level that you can't even find common ground with people in the sex industry and who advocate for sex worker rights on an issue as blatantly misogynist, patriarchal and offensive as these t-shirts are........ Holy shit.

Better to fight sex worker rights activists than to stand up to actual patriarchal misogynist bullshit like these shirts. Let me clue you in on reality witch, I had a former colleague named Kristen Crowley. Lowlife scum that would have been thrilled by these t-shirts crushed her skull with a rock in 1996 because she was a stripper. Thus I have a pretty harsh view of faux feminists who choose to use an issue as repulsive as t-shirts that try to make comedy out of the brutal killing of sex workers.

Witchy, your post is disgrace to yourself and to feminism. When the fuck are you and your ultra rad fem types going to actually grow up and stand up to patriarchy and fight for social justice rather than launch flames at sex worker rights activists and sex workers.

Actions speak so much louder than words and Witchy, your actions suck and are undeserving of even the most peripheral level of professional courtesy.

Natalia said...

***Which is why anyone over 25 won't get our humor. There's a huge generation and cultural gap here.***

I'm 23. These t-shirts suck.

On the plus side, I'll know to keep far FAR away from someone wearing one.

antiprincess said...

stefan kane's Blurbs
About me:
I own Cuttin' Up Hookers Apparel. I drink more slurpees than you. Try me.

Who I'd like to meet:
sluts.


ok - assuming that stefan appreciates no difference between "hookers" and "sluts", he seems to be operating at cross purposes to himself, yes? why would a woman want to meet stefan, if all he's gonna do is cut her up (even in jest)? I mean, I have to wonder if his strategy is successful at all.

"hey baby, how you doin? want a free 'Cuttin Up Hookers' t-shirt? I can hook you up...notice I left off the 'g' in 'Cuttin'? to make it more casual and funny...get it? hey, where you goin'? jeez, some chicks have no sense of humor..."

belledame222 said...

Jill: yup.

Jill Brenneman said...

WTF? Under 25 type person that feels the rest of us don't understand your generations humor. First I doubt most of the under 25 population finds that cutting up hookers shirt to be appropriate. You do a disservice to those under 25 by doing a sweeping generalization that they would support this kind of violence against sex workers or other human beings in general. Your argument is absurd and akin to saying that all Muslims supported the mass killing of innocent people on 9/11. Obviously the huge majority of Muslims were horrified at the horrific deaths of others.

I have a lot more faith in those under 25 than to believe they see this kind of violence shit as humor.

Don't play the we're the young generation and we aren't understood card. That dog doesn't hunt. All of us were under 25. I grew up in the era where it was still considered funny and cool to make jokes about killing homosexuals and those that were in interracial relationships. I never saw them as funny and opposed that kind of shit even though it was popular and hip back then.

Howard Stern is a shock jock. His gig is to say things that get attention. That is his job description. To say that your generation grew up with him and the rest of us don't understand? I;ve met him and been a guest on one of his shows and was 27 at the time. So save it.

You grew up with Vince McMahon too. Does this mean you watch wrestling and do random pro wrestling type moves on people on the street because it is what you grew up with? What a bunch of shit. Whether I was under 25 or over 25 I would think you were a moron and would tell you this to your face at any age. At 12 I would have thought that this t-shirt was horrible and a bunch of shit.

If you are this impacted by Howard Stern, turn off the fucking radio because you are too young for the show.

Jill Brenneman said...

Under 25 type person who thinks the t shirts are cool and that we don't understand. If you truly believe this and have actual the cajones to back up your position, I'll give you the opportunity in a debate format on www.xxbn.net XBN talk radio to make your case as long as you have the stones to take listener calls and my own objections to your points. Which I will make my arguments to your points professionally and civilly as we are a media outlet and have to follow FCC regulations and I don't want a springer trashfest concept. But there is good dialogue opportunity here.

If you don't take the offer, I guess we know what you are really made of.

antiprincess said...

didn't the under-25 crowd also grow up with Elmo, Barney, VeggieTales, etc.? all just oooooozing warm fuzzy love-thy-neighbor type messages?

yet somehow the effects of those media are not calculated. huh.

me, I'm not buying his "The Media Made Me Do It!" excuse.

and anyway, one could make the case that the whole "my generation" argument was dated, trite and irrelevant about two minutes after The Who sang about it.

people try to put us d-d-d-down, just because we g-g-g-g-get around...

Andrea said...

You guys are fucking ridiculous.

Its a shirt, a piece of clothe, you guys are getting so intense, telling Alex to go die and shit.

really?
isn't that a little hypocritical.

why don't you worry about something a little more meaningful then what someone chooses to print on a shirt.