Wednesday, September 24, 2008

“The Price of Pleasure”: I am skeptical of claims that this film is honest & nonjudgmental.

Firstly, I must preface this with I have not yet seen the film. I will be seeing the film relatively soon, but much like many on all sides of the pornography issue who are writing and talking about this film, at this point all I have to go on is the trailer, clips, and rather slick media package. And while I have my longstanding concerns about 2257 with this film (which yes, people will counter will fair use-although in the case of this film, profit is absolutely a concern), at this point I merely want to focus on the claims made by the makers and promoters of this film that it is an honest and nonjudgmental look at “the most rented”-as stated on Dr. Sun’s web page- pornographic films (of 2005) and the effects thereof.

And that is the claim: that the film “The Price of Pleasure” is an honest and nonjudgmental look at popular pornography- and it’s influence. That, merely from the trailer, clips, and media packaging seems to me to be blatantly false and untrue. Perhaps upon seeing the film in its entirety, I will change my mind, but I am skeptical. At this point, claims that “The Price of Pleasure” is either of those things seems at best laughable and at worst utterly manipulative and dishonest. Anything and everything I’ve seen about this film suggests that it is heavily, blatantly and completely anti-pornography. Which would be fine if that is what the film was promoted and marketed as, but that is not the way it is being promoted and marketed.

And what causes me to make such accusations? Let us examine...

From the media kit for “The Price of Pleasure” we have the following: "Honest and nonjudgmental, the film paints both a nuanced and complex portrait of how pleasure and pain, commerce and power, and liberty and responsibility are intertwined in the most intimate aspects of human relations." Which sounds promising I suppose if you are one of those people who think sex is the most intimate aspect of human relations. However, when one makes such claims about their work, they must be prepared to defend it, and if one digs deeper into the forces behind “The Price of Pleasure”, they will find just about everyone involved in its production and promotion is anti-pornography, in some cases, stridently so.

First we need to look at the filmmakers: Chyng Sun and Robert Wosnitzer. Both are involved in the Anti Pornography movement, have participated at Feminist Anti Pornography Events. Both have profited from anti pornography writings, publications, films, and public speaking engagements. Sun is often regarded as a leading academic voice in the Anti Pornography Movement. When one is already so solidly entrenched in the Anti Porn Movement, considered a leading voice of that movement, with a long list of Anti Porn credits associated with their name and academic career, I find it worth asking the following question: Can this person even be honest and nonjudgmental about the industry in theory, let alone in practice and on film? There is no indication that either of these filmmakers are coming at the topic from a neutral stance or view, in fact, quite the opposite. Every indication is that they are coming at it from an anti porn stance, thus making an anti porn film, and quite possibly incapable of making anything other than an anti porn film.

Next, we must look at those who are promoting this film, not only in the general sense, but as an honest and nonjudgmental work. The filmmakers themselves are promoting it, as are several of the anti pornography advocates who are featured in it; including Prof. Robert Jensen and Dr. Gail Dines- who cannot in any way be considered unbiased on the issue of pornography- which would be fine if this film was promoted and presented in it’s media package or in reality as an anti pornography film, but that is not the case. These people are hosting screenings and discussion forums of the films at universities and other such forums, and reviews of such events from various sources have indicated that these events are not, as advertised, honest and nonjudgmental.

Then, there is the trailer and the interview clips themselves. There is pornographic footage, interviews done in dark serious rooms and on the fly at an adult industry events, the occasional dramatic reenactment, which works for entertaining/shocking film making, but does it make for truth or honest and nonjudgmental? Does it represent the most rented pornographic movies of 2005? No, it doesn’t. Not by a long shot.

In fact, here is a verbal synopsis of the trailer, which can be seen here:

Men talking about porn and liking aggressive sex like they see in porn….(no trailer footage of any women speaking on the matter).

Clip of a Burning Angel film (gonzo) where a female performer in a little girl voice talks about her father molesting her, clip of her being slapped and having tape put over her mouth- no mention of if she is playing a role or speaking her truth…same actress off set saying she doesn’t feel objectified because she doesn’t think you can honestly make a human an object.

Annie Cruz discussing prices for various acts (dp, double anal, gangbangs) featured in Gonzo Porn, her specialty.

Cut to gangbang clip, then to a man saying the women look like they are having a good time, cut to Sarah Katherine Lewis asking “Are they seeing my humanity, no. I’m seeing a disgusting customer, they’re seeing a hot slut who wants it”. Flashback to the woman in the gangbang scene after she’s been ejaculated on by several men, she appears to be grinning and says “gross”, cut to Brandon Iron saying it’s a good scene, cut to a woman (not a performer) talking about how the dirtier, the better, how porn has taken a more extreme turn.

Cut to ERNEST! Putting a collar on a very content looking submissive in a BDSM scene, then Ernest saying that he doesn’t feel guilty or ashamed of what he does, nor does he think evil people need pictures to make them do evil things. While he’s talking clips from various Kink.com shoots and various rough gonzo/bondage clips are shown (choking, water bondage, caning), followed by Jeff Steward of JM Productions (nsfw!) discussing how some women like to be dominated- ending with a swirlie shot.

Roll credits.

Now, of course, my quibbles.

One- The biggest grossing porn film of all time, released in the year 2005? Pirates. A high budget, slick, script driven film with a plot and full of highly paid contract performers…somewhat like a slick, fun, campy Hollywood movie made for…adults! In fact, you can see a scene from Pirates, no sex or nudity, right here. Is it silly? Yes, it’s silly. Is it the highest selling, top grossing, most popular porn film of all time? Yes, it is. Is it wall-to-wall gonzo sex, or degrading language, or any other such thing? No, it is not. Is it in the trailer for “The Price of Pleasure”, an honest and nonjudgmental look at the most rented porn movies of 2005? No, it is not. Nor is Dark Angels 2: Bloodlines, a high grossing porn movie feature about Vampires, or Catherine, a lavishly costumed porn version of the story of Catherine The Great, which combined the story aspects of a feature and the sort of sex found in Gonzo films. Nor are any of the films put out by Adam & Eve, or Vivid, or Wicked- true giants of the industry, or films with performers like Tera Patrick or Jessie Jane. No, none of that. Apparently, none of these things are truly…honestly and what have you… representative of modern porn or top selling porn in 2005…even though Pirates was the undisputed king of pornographic movies released that year. (The sequel for Pirates is due out shortly, by the way, and it is the most pre-ordered porn film...ever.)

However online net footage from Kink.com apparently is, scenes from JM Productions “Swirlies” apparently are, Brandon Iron’s gangbang videos are. Were there rougher edged gonzo films that sold well in 2005? Of course there were. Did any of them even come close to rivaling Pirates? No. Not by the wildest stretch of any honest or nonjudgmental persons imagination. Within porn itself, BDSM is a specialty market, to the best of my knowledge (Ernest, feel free to correct me if I am wrong) no hardcore themed hard-edged BDSM movies were featured as Best Selling/Most Popular pornographic movies in 2005…or any other year? Yet this honest film would certainly, if its trailer is any indication, have you believing otherwise. This honest and nonjudgmental film’s trailer would have you believing that BDSM films, JM Productions, and hard edged gonzo were the only type of pornography out there…even if they do have Jenna Jameson (whose work is far more along the lines of “Pirates” than “Gangbang Girls”) plastered boldly on their web page…undoubtedly without Jameson’s consent.

In fact, a great deal of what is in “The Price of Pleasure” would appear to be BDSM and Gonzo film & Internet Content…passed off as “the most popular porn films”.

Two- On “The Price of Pleasure” website, there are clips of the people interviewed for the film. The first thing I noted was that the pornographers and pornographic actresses are called by their full/stage names, whereas some of the anti porn speakers included are referred to in a friendly fashion by merely their first names, sans creds or university affiliation. Secondly, it seems to me that any quote from any of the pornographers was one that was intentionally picked, out of how many hours of footage (Ernest Greene was interviewed- in depth- for three hours), to make them sound utterly callous. There are two female performers featured, one of whom does almost exclusively Gonzo content, the other whose knowledge of the workings of the hardcore porn industry is open to serious question. I’ll be going back to that in a moment…

However, there is not a single contract or feature performer included in this section. Nor a single director, producer or performer representing any one of the major feature producing porn companies. There is no Tera Patrick, no Jessie Jane, no Joone, not a single person like them to be found anywhere.

And now we are back to that. I would be remiss if I did not bring up amid the female performers featured in the clips (all two of them), we have Sarah Katherine Lewis. Now, there is no question about Lewis’s involvement in the sex industry. She is most certainly a former sex worker and 100% entitled to her own opinions and views on sex work and her experiences are not in question in any way. However, by Lewis’s own words in her books, she did a scant number of solo-girl pornographic scenes in either Seattle or Portland. Yet, in this honest and nonjudgmental film, Lewis is seemingly set up as an expert on/veteran of the porn industry- which is utterly misleading as Lewis has never performed in hardcore heterosexual boy/girl or girl/girl, gonzo, bdsm, or mainstream pornography films at all, ever. Using her to apparently offset Annie Cruz is not at all honest, in any way. Simply put, she has not done the same work nor have the same experience as Cruz, nor any other performer who has done any of that kind of pornography, yet she is presented as someone who has. Her experiences in sex work are not being questioned, her place as an authority on the type of pornography dicussed in this film is most certain subject to question and critique.

Now, as I have said, I’ve not yet seen the film in its entirety, and baring death or grievous bodily harm, I will be (after all, severe burns didn’t keep me out of Chicago!), and yes, I am looking forward to seeing and discussing the full thing. Perhaps it is, in truth, honest and nonjudgmental look at popular pornography, but I am going in skeptical. Very skeptical, because everything I’ve seen thus far suggests this film is anything but honest and nonjudgmental, that it is nothing more than an anti porn film misrepresenting itself as honest and nonjudgmental. At this point, I have no other reason to think otherwise.

After all, if people like…oh…say…pornographers, happy porn performers and enthusiastic viewers (of both sexes)…got together and made a movie which claimed to be an honest and nonjudgmental look at the anti porn movement*, would anyone believe it was or could be either of those things? I suspect not. That being the case, the same assumptions must be made by those considering a film made by Sun & Wosnitzer and promoted by other famous anti-porn activists. If one has any interest in being honest or academically unbiased, that is.

(*Hey Ernest, now there’s an idea…)

24 comments:

Trinity said...

"Cut to ERNEST! Putting a collar on a very content looking submissive in a BDSM scene"

Which was totally hot, actually. Now I want to go see whatever film that clip came from! Probably not the intention of the makers of The Price of Pleasure, there.

PhysioProf said...

What's a "swirlie shot"? I tried to google it up, but didn't get anything informative.

Hey, are you excited for the Eagles Sunday night game?

Outis said...

In addition to your exemplary arguments, I humbly submit my exhibit "A".

"What the (bleep) do we know" was a fun movie, with a delightful actress, Marlee Matlin.

The movie challenges our thinking about reality; but in the end, it turns out to be viral marketing scheme for a channeler named ZJ Knight.

Most people that watch this movie will not make the connection, nor research it properly. As a result they will buy the premise, lock, stock and barrel, and buy into the "truth". The resulting acceptance knocks them off their path, and leaves them confused and bewildered, but no matter, the important thing is that it lines the pockets of the "Profits". [Sic]

Your argument is sound. As I see it, the producers of TPOP are trying to create a meme. A meme is a fundamental part of cyberwar. Use the most sensational example of what you are trying to attack and create, (As you have said numerous times before), a monolithic enemy.

Your example of "Pirates" was brilliant. For future examples may I suggest that you use Tony Comstock, Erika Lust and Viv Thomas? All of these people are trying to bring porn into the mainstream.

Thanks for your tireless efforts.

Outis

Infra said...

Hopefully this isn't a double-post. My browser crashed while checking the trailer. (How's that for an omen?)

I'm a big fan of doc films, and I've seen some that have handled contentious issues very well: The Bridge and Lake of Fire are two that come to mind. They set the bar pretty high as far as "honest and nonjudgmental" goes.

From the promotional materials for "The Price of Pleasure," I suspect that it's going to fall far short. They practically scream bias. Just to name one thing: one clip, the one with Ana Bridges, has a list of movie titles -- but it starts with no. 125. (She also said that their studies were based on random sampling from the list, not from the most popular titles.) If they're examining mainstream films, why show ones so far down?

Color and setting choices tend to make a big difference, too, and one notable thing is that many (maybe most) of the interviews take place against a black background with relatively harsh lighting. Why not in a lighted room, and with better key & fill, like they did with Chomsky?

Oh, and then there was the clip of Damone Richardson, which is limited to about 15 seconds of him talking about hip-hop, with an introductory sentence about porn themes with artists and songs. That's playing on some stereotypes right there. Not to mention the extremely short clip of Ernest saying that "that 70% of the audience is straight men, watching it alone." -- which omits the first part of the sentence. I mean, all they include is a phrase, completely devoid of context. And it's against a background of a porn title and an illustration of a smiling 1950's style man.

At least two of the clips are people talking about seeing porn at 11 or 12 years old. Not about their reactions, and not about how they thought it might have affected them -- or not. Just that they'd seen it.

And then there's the bibliography pdf to check out.

I suspect that the most apt description for this film is going to be "polemic" and "hack job." And that's being painfully generous.

Dw3t-Hthr said...

Sad me needs to get a good collar afternoon/evening soon, I think, yeah.

Anonymous said...

Ren,

Actually, the vid box in the trailer and the short clip of Nina having her leg worshiped are from Jenna Loves Pain, a softcore BDSM pic I directed, also released in 2005. It did what was considered an amazing 50K units, mainly because of Jenna's presence, I'm sure. It also won the AVN Best Specialty - Bondage award that year. Typically, BDSM titles do about 2,000 units, total.

Pirates was on the AVN best-seller chart for 52 weeks and won the Best Selling Video Award from AVN two years running, It's sales are well into seven digits.

Those are the numbers and they don't support the fundamental claim of the film to examine the best-selling videos of 2005.

Trinity,

The clip with Chloe and me is from Reclaiming of Chloe. I don't know if it's still available, but it's a nice, very PC BDSM show, and in no way resembles the other BDSM material in the trailer.

Ernest

Ernest Greene said...

BTW, Trinity, glad you thought the tiny clip from the Chloe vid was hot. She and I were living together then and the picture looks very much like we felt at the time. It was a nice moment.

Of course, Sun wasn't about to let that come across without cutting to Lorelei Lee getting caned with her head in a box. Not that I have anything against that material either. Lorelei is also a lifestyle BDSM player and that scene is just her kind of thing.

But the juxtaposition is clearly meant to provoke a negative reaction.

Ernest

Anonymous said...

Ernest --- for us outsiders in the peanut gallery, when you say sales of Pirates are into seven digits, are you referring to units sold or gross revenues? i'm guessing the latter, but it isn't totally clear.

Amber Rhea said...

This is such a great post!!

Aspasia said...

Myself, SerpentLibertine and Jane Brazen are supposed to see the film on October 11th when it's screened at UIC. We're thinking of wearing pro-sex worker shirts to the movie. Heh.

Anonymous said...

Anony,

In our business, units means actual physical pieces sold. That's right. Pirates has sold over a million individual copies.

This does not include cable licensing, foreign rights, V.O.D. or any other revenue streams. Total revenues are very, very large for this show.

And they'll be even bigger for the sequel, which hasn't even been released yet and has broken records for pre-sales, according to AVN.

I write a business analysis column for X-Biz, which is the more serious-minded of the industry trade journals and I have a saying I repeat often for the benefit of producers, who need to be thumped pretty hard to get their attention.

The money is in the middle. Sure, there are strong markets for niche products of all kinds from MILF to Gonzo, but if you want to make real money in porn, make something that appeals the widest possible audience, just the way Hollywood does. For mainstream, that means nothing above a PG-13 rating.

For porn, it means nothing that a porn-friendly couple with otherwise conventional sexual tastes would find offensive.

Contrary to the progressive-addiction meme most often used by APRFs and Holy Joes, the vast majority of the porn audience likes fairly mild material with nothing too shocking in it. Of course, Bob Jensen has his Jesuitical ways of explaining why a Vivid romantic drama is no different in kind from a blow-bang, but to the audience there is a big, big difference.

And who sells the most, still, after all these de-sensitizing, porn addicting years of pumping out titles - Vivid, Wicked, Digital Playground, Adam&Eve and other companies that offer hardcore versions of what amount to adult cable shows.

That's where the money is, and you'd think a bunch of so-called leftists would look at capital concentration in any market and see that most of the capital is, predictably, concentrated in the hands of manufacturers whose products have the widest appeal.

Of course, when the facts don't fit the theory, the facts must be wrong, right?

Ernest

DK said...

It's interesting reading the press kit PDF on the Price of Pleasure site.

They call it an honest look at the porn world, but the "What The Film Is Really About" section by Chyng Sun & Miguel Picker doesn't really attempt to hide their pre-existing bias:

Theme-wise, this whole
film can be summed up by two short statements: "Nothing shows any better than pornography what you get from capitalism," by Rich Wolff (Professor of Economics) and
"Pornography delivers patriarchal messages to men’s brain by the penis," by Gail Dines (Professor of Sociology and Women's Studies).


Maybe I'm just immature, but I can't help but giggle at that quote from Gail Dines.

Personally I'm not convinced that the influence of porn on society is harmless, but put like that it just sounds ridiculous. Can men avoid patriarchal porn mind control by wrapping their penis in tinfoil while they watch?

Daisy said...

Now I know what all those half-naked Pirates were about at Dragon*Con.

Daisy said...

Pornography delivers patriarchal messages to men’s brain by the penis

DK, you ain't immature, that is funny as hell.

superlagirl said...

Okay, I watched the clip from Pirates, and now I really want to rent it. That would be the first porn I've watched in about 8 years.

You are a bad, bad influence, Renegade Evolution.

PhysioProf said...

Maybe I'm just immature, but I can't help but giggle at that quote from Gail Dines.

Yeah, that is funny. I'm picturing my dick with its own eyes and ears watching porn.

Alexa said...

PhysioProf, a swirlie is where the girl's (or guy's, I suppose) head is pushed into a toilet while it is being flushed.

PhysioProf said...

PhysioProf, a swirlie is where the girl's (or guy's, I suppose) head is pushed into a toilet while it is being flushed.

I guess my naivete is absurd, but I never in a million years would have thought that kind of fraternity hazing prank would be porn! What about funneling beer?

Renegade Evolution said...

PRof-

you don't wanna know where it gets funneled...

PhysioProf said...

you don't wanna know where it gets funneled...

AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAH!

Let's just talk about how the Eagles are gonna kick Da Bears' ass!

Iamcuriousblue said...

Kind of related, the latest book on "porn culture":

link
link

Supposedly "pro-sex" and with positive reviews by Annie Sprinkle, Al Goldstein, and Jessica Valenti, no less. Still, I'm a bit skeptical, as it seems to spin the usual memes of "porn culture" and "porn is becoming more violent", and it seems to buy into the whole panic over "sexualization" pretty uncritically.

I'm definitely going to give this one a read, though.

Catseye said...

I like Ren's idea of a documentary by porn people about the anti-porn movement! And, you've just inspired me to go get "Pirates".

Like IACB,I'm a little concerned about that new book that he linked to, "The Porning of America". Maybe the good reviews from the sex-positive people come from it's discussion of the history of porn. And, sure, a lot of people are worried about the effect of porn, or at least, rough porn, on children who can see it more easily now. However, it looks like they're ascribing to the new availability of porn everything in our culture that has to do with human sexuality or the abuse of human sexuality. The sexualized humiliations at Abu Ghirab and the photos taken of them would have happened without the influence of porn. And, aside from the "porn star" t-shirts for little girls, the problem of sexy-looking clothes for little girls has been around for a while. I was disturbed about that in the 1980s when my niece and her friends were that age and were wearing those tight little skirts.

Iamcuriousblue said...

I've got a copy of "The Porning of America" coming through interlibrary loan, so I'll be giving it a read shortly. (Sometimes, I'm just too cheap to buy a book, especially if I doubt its something I'm going to refer back to after I read it once.) I'll post a review on BPPA after I'm done with it.

The whole "porn and BDSM caused Abu Ghraib" is entirely hollow. Abu Ghraib had more to do with the same ugly social dynamic that was behind the Stanford Prison Experiment and other cruel behavior toward prisoners and targets of punishment that has been going on since time immemorial – long before the existence of mass-market pornography.

Serpentlibertine said...

Saw it last night at DePaul...Robert Jensen was there! We ended up in a long argument/discussion with the woman filmmaker after the screening. She was receptive enough but does seem to think their movie is objective. Jensen tried to avoid calling on me to ask my question and then stared at the floor as I was asking it. He's such a coward.

Going to another screening again today at my old college. Wish you could be with us Ren!